<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">See discussion on <div class=""><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95752985#map=18/51.46201/-0.12146&layers=C" class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95752985#map=18/51.46201/-0.12146&layers=C</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There appear to be a large number of sections of road in some areas of London tagged as ‘cycle route’ that are no more than the occasional 1057 cycle symbol painted on the road.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">They are not signed, and do not have any route numbering.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Based on the discussion it appears</div><div class="">- most were added by user MacLondon </div><div class="">- they were the ‘lowest level’ of route designation by some councils at some time in the past. Pick some ‘useful routes’ on ‘quiet roads’ and just paint some symbols on them for people to follow </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Some of these appear on the last 2015 TfL cycle maps in yellow (routes were blue) keyed as ‘other roads recommended by cyclists’ </div><div class=""> </div><div class="">My opinion is</div><div class="">- these are not followable on the ground </div><div class="">- they do not meet TfL or borough quality criteria (and thus do not appear on any more recent maps) eg - they are not shown in any way on <font color="#222222" face="Helvetica Neue, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Lambeth councils 2017 cycle map </span></span><span style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 14px;" class=""><a href="https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/parking-transport-and-streets/cycling/lambeth-cycle-routes-map" class="">https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/parking-transport-and-streets/cycling/lambeth-cycle-routes-map</a></span></font></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif;" class="">- they decrease legibility of the map because they create a mass of dense blue lines from which it’s hard to pick out genuinely useful routes.</span></div><div class="">- they probably have a negative impact on routing engines as they are likely treated equally to actual signposted routes. </div><div class="">- in many cases where they do show the most direct route through backstreets that is likely to be the busiest with rat running traffic as it’s where google and Waze will send drivers. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thoughts?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>