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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/01/2021 08:29, Ken Kilfedder
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<div style="font-family:Verdana;">Like I say, the users have at
least put everything back, and have engaged in conversation on
the subject. So it's not a matter for DWG.<br>
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<p>Well...</p>
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<div style="font-family:Verdana;">But my concern is that one of
them has around 1000 edits to his name; and that the two user
names *imply* dozens (hundreds?) of others a blundering about
replacing accurate in-person mapping with nice-looking but
incorrect data from who-knows-what sources?<br>
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<div style="font-family:Verdana;">Is anyone keeping a log of
similar incidents from FB mappers and/or our other corporate
benefactors?<br>
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<div style="font-family:Verdana;">Am I making a mountain out of a
molehill? Happy to wind my neck in, if so.<br>
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<p>Editors such as this should be following
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines</a>
. The users here are clearly not doing so:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/VLD174">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/VLD174</a> has no link from their
profile page to entries in
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities</a>
for projects that they are working on (and in fact there currently
seem to be NO entries on that page with Facebook as an organiser).</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/VLD071">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/VLD071</a> doesn't mention
Facebook directly either, but does mention's Facebook's "black
hole" address <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:osm@fb.com">"osm@fb.com"</a>.</p>
<p>It's not the first time that Facebook's mappers have been found
wanting - see e.g. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/4171">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/4171</a>
and other previous occurrences. My impression (based on looking
at the results) is that Facebook's mappers receive less training
about what OSM is and how the various communities work than some
other "organised mappers". A write-up from the Facebook side of
an early attempt at adding stuff by them is at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17856687">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17856687</a> (that was completely
reverted by the DWG because it was complete garbage - any vaguely
straight line was added as a "road").</p>
<p>It's good that in this example you've managed to make contact
with the Facebook mappers concerned and the damage has been
reverted, but I suspect that we (the DWG) do need to have a chat
with Facebook about what they need to do to follow
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines</a> .</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy (from OSM's Data Working Group)<br>
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