<div dir="ltr">A common (and, to a lesser extent, a village green) isn't a single landuse, though; I'd expect there to be patches of woodland, heath, grass, meadow and so on, shifting over the decades. Similarly a village green may be mostly grass, but there could well also be a playground, sports pitches (even a cricket green), the odd copse and of course a pond.<div><br></div><div>So if we want to keep a single object to which to attach the designation and name of the common / village green, it can't be a "grass" area.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:21 AM nathan case <<a href="mailto:nathancase@outlook.com">nathancase@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I believe landuse=village_green suffers from a similar problem (tagging, particularly outside the UK, that does not match the definition).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dvillage_green" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dvillage_green</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I agree with DaveF. Perhaps, as with public footpaths, we should separate the legal definition from the object.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>With public footpath, we have:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>highway=footway<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>foot=designated<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>designation=public_footpath<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Therefore we could have:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>landuse=grass (or other appropriate tag)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>access=designated<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>designation=common <u></u>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>landuse=grass<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>access=designated<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>designation=village_green
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>and then depreciate the leisure=common and landuse=village_green tags.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Cheers.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Dave F via Talk-GB <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 8, 2021 11:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project 2021Q1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">One tag which requires sorting in the UK is leisure=common<br>
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<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon</a><br>
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As you probably know, OSM-Carto stopped rendering it. The reasons are given under ''Problems with this tag' section. I believe they are valid. Many appear to be misused just to get an area to render green without any knowledge of legal status (I'm guilty of
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Unfortunately the actual landuse of them varies so an automated UK wide correction can't be performed.<br>
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Using additional tags, such as landuse=grass to get them to display is 'tagging incorrectly for the renderer' as it's designed to be a stand alone tag.<br>
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<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dgrass" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dgrass</a><br>
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There are currently 3386 leisure=common<br>
732 with additional landuse tags (650 grass, plus meadow & village_green etc)<br>
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<a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/13lr" target="_blank">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/13lr</a><br>
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After a quick look, it appears many of the urban cases could be mapped solely as landuse=grass<br>
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If legal provenance is known then designation=common would seem appropriate.<br>
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DaveF<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14/01/2021 22:29, Gareth L wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The UK Quarterly project for Q1 2021 has been selected as Green spaces.
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Project/2021/2021_Q1_Project:_Green_Spaces" target="_blank">
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Project/2021/2021_Q1_Project:_Green_Spaces</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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