<div dir="ltr">Hi Jez,<div><br></div><div>To be fair, it was known as "Springvale" for some years and only recently (~2 years) changed to "Penistone" when the operator changed hands. It does show that a feature thought to be fairly static can actually change over time.<br><br>Anyway, thanks for publicising the HWRC list that lives on the Wiki. I'll cross reference as many as I know in my area.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><i>Paul</i></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 15:00, Jez Nicholson <<a href="mailto:jez.nicholson@gmail.com">jez.nicholson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Took me a few minutes to work out that Paul's HWRC is down as 'Springvale' although clearly, from the sign, it is called 'Penistone'. The pains of data eh! I've put the wikidata id on it from <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Household_waste_in_the_United_Kingdom#List_of_HWRCs" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Household_waste_in_the_United_Kingdom#List_of_HWRCs</a><div><br></div><div>We've got a proof-of-concept web app at <a href="https://dev.jackgilmore.me/" target="_blank">https://dev.jackgilmore.me/</a> which is going to be elevated to "OpenWasteMap.org" soon. Uses Overpass Turbo to pull data combined with Wikidata.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 2:37 PM Chris Hodges <<a href="mailto:chris@c-hodges.co.uk" target="_blank">chris@c-hodges.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>My Apr-Sep was a guess, but apparently a good one. Mine
(<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/636303826" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/636303826</a> ) clearly needs a bit
of surveying. Maybe I'll have enough stuff to be worth going
soon; if so I'll try to rig a couple of cameras in the van.<br>
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<div>On 22/03/2021 14:10, Paul Berry wrote:<br>
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<div>My local recycling centre helpfully signs the summer/winter
opening times, permit system, and prohibited pedestrian
access. You can see how I tagged it, with a link through to
the source photo, here: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27445657" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27445657</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 13:56,
Chris Hodges <<a href="mailto:chris@c-hodges.co.uk" target="_blank">chris@c-hodges.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>(How) do they define "summer" and "winter"? I've seen
definitions that pick up off the clock change days, which
I doubt would be possible with the current syntax. If
they call summer April-September that shouldn't be a
problem<br>
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<p>My local Chorley Recycling Centre</p>
<p> <a href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.63462870271903&lng=-2.64895511208465&z=19.259070961605016&pKey=po3NgIdhU2YI7-tzgFtQ2Q&focus=photo&x=0.5055185484717322&y=0.4879444087446956&zoom=1.6289592760180995" target="_blank">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.63462870271903&lng=-2.64895511208465&z=19.259070961605016&pKey=po3NgIdhU2YI7-tzgFtQ2Q&focus=photo&x=0.5055185484717322&y=0.4879444087446956&zoom=1.6289592760180995</a><br>
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<p>Allowed - Cars, single axle trailers</p>
<p>Allowed with PERMIT - Vans, Twin Axle Trailers, Pick
ups and Flat backs, Pedestrians</p>
<p>Not Allowed - Vehicles with more than 4 wheels, Tipper
vehicles, Trailers longer than 3 metres, Trade Waste.</p>
<p>Operated by Suez under contract from Lancashire County
Council</p>
<p><b>Opening Hours are seasonal - Winter - 0900-1700,
Summer 0700-1900 - how can that be tagged?</b></p>
<p><b>And is the Household Waste list of sites updated
automatically? Cos Farington is in the list but has
not an OSM reference?</b><br>
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<div>TonyS999</div>
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<pre>Would foot=no with motor_vehicle=yes (or motor_vehicle=only) on the gate or access road do the trick?
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<pre>Seconded: access is a crucial detail (along with opening hours and types of
waste accepted).
They are one of those features that are not only impossible to armchair map
in any detail but actually require a resident to drive through the facility.
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<pre>Hmm. I have used (and mapped) these in both Oxfordshire and Cornwall.
Both appeared to cater only for vehicles, but I don't think they
actually displayed any notices to that effect. I don't know what would
happen if a pedestrian turned up with a wheelbarrow of waste or a
rucksac of rubbish even if they could walk along the long access roads.
How would you tag that for access? Similarly I have never been asked to
prove residence.
ael
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