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<div><br></div><div>Aug 5, 2021, 14:58 by ajt1047@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div class="">On 05/08/2021 13:29, Mateusz Konieczny
via Talk-GB wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="auto">Would it be correct to describe it as covering the
same as unsigned_ref<br></div><div dir="auto">"Indicates a route number that has assigned ref
that is not prominently signposted with<br></div><div dir="auto">a reassurance marker."<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:unsigned_ref#Usage" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:unsigned_ref</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></blockquote><p>The wiki page for unsigned_ref seems to define it as a ref that
_is_ signed, just not very well, which is somewhat confusing.<br></p></blockquote><div dir="auto">I clarified a bit by adding<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"It may be not signposted anywhere at all, what is a typical situation.<br></div><div dir="auto">But in some rare cases there are tiny, unusable by drivers, signs."<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><p>The original version of the page <br></p><p><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:unsigned_ref&direction=prev&oldid=1095857" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:unsigned_ref&direction=prev&oldid=1095857</a><br></p><p>suggests that it was used a lot in the US, which makes sense
because a single road there can be part of both SR123 and SR345.
One of these may be signed, one not.<br></p><p>(...)<br></p><div dir="auto">You added "... or with barely visible signs" at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:unsigned_ref&direction=next&oldid=2114371" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:unsigned_ref&direction=next&oldid=2114371</a> , and that significantly changes that pages meaning to no longer
reflect how the tag was previously used.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">It was intended as documenting how it is used in for example Poland (where somebody<br></div><div dir="auto">started placing tiny signs in some parts of a country).<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Maybe tagging should be changed by community instead or it should be noted that<br></div><div dir="auto">it is a local oddity?<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><p>That said, some way of expressing "there are signs here, but they
are not very good" would be useful - but that's surely not
"unsigned_ref"<br></p></blockquote><div dir="auto">it is not so bad - as this signs are utterly unusable by drivers (too tiny)<br></div> </body>
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