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I've experimentally enhanced my local Bingley Five Rise with both
Edward's and Tom's suggestions.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/280721691">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/280721691</a><br>
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My main motivation is how to highlight subjectively "interesting"
features for tourism and education purposes with quantitative
tagging. It is now possible to find the general location as a
tourism=attraction and pull up full information about it, including
all the locks. This is where I am going with a personal Android app.<br>
<br>
Being more serious about relations than my first thread comment, I
loathe the over-use and often unnecessarily complex use of relations
where a simpler solution will suffice. That said, it took a two cups
of coffee research and thought but I think the not well-liked
'group' relation does seem ideal here IF you want more detail rather
than just Where Is It?<br>
<br>
For Foxton Lock, I've followed Dave F's suggestion and simply added
more detail to the existing place=locality tag. So, you can find it
and know what it is using free-form text, but doesn't say anything
quantitative about the locks themselves - perhaps that just doesn't
matter?<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2413496279">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2413496279</a> Foxton Locks<br>
<br>
I noticed that one can't find the Fort Augustus Flight at all in
OSM, so I have tried a half-way approach and created a
place=locality tag but put it on a group relation:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13089161">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13089161</a> Fort Augustus Lock
Flight (that appears to be the formal name), alt name Fort Augustus
Locks<br>
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NOTE: The edits are experimental, so if anyone wants to re-edit,
FEEL FREE, (as long as it is not a straight deletion!).<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
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Other staircase locks mentioned in the thread or that I stumbled
across:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.35194/-2.02505">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.35194/-2.02505</a> Caen Hill -
Difficult to find in OSM, so definitely needs some TLC<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/239118607">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/239118607</a> Neptune's Staircase -
Mapped as a tourism=attraction on a single way bounding each lock
pool.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/330275022#map=15/53.1268/-2.6321">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/330275022#map=15/53.1268/-2.6321</a>
Bunbury Staircase Locks. Mapped as place=location,
tourism=attraction on a node<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.droitwichcanals.co.uk/page24.html">https://www.droitwichcanals.co.uk/page24.html</a> :<br>
<br>
"<span class="C-5">The largest narrow boat staircase is the Watford
locks which has four steps and is located on the Leicester line of
the Grand Union Canal.<br>
On the Droitwich Junction Canal we have a two staircase lock -<wbr>
locks 4 & 5. The next nearest Staircase lock are the Stourport
locks on the Staffordshire and Worcestershire Canal"</span><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-08-12 22:40, Edward Bainton
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Fort Augustus Flight on the Caledonian Canal is
also a staircase (pure staircase afaik; no passing place).
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<div dir="auto">I looked at the wiki. How about:</div>
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<div dir="auto">waterway=canal<br>
lock=yes<br>
lock:type=staircase_lock<br>
[Other values: =tide_lock, etc? Pound lock assumed]<br>
lock_number=1/5<br>
lock_name:flight=Fort Augustus Flight</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 11 Aug 2021, 19:49
Philip Barnes, <<a href="mailto:phil@trigpoint.me.uk"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">phil@trigpoint.me.uk</a>>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I would
have thought the obvious staircase locks to look at is
Foxton.<br>
<br>
I remember going there with the school. From memory the
gates are shared between locks with a wide passing place in
the middle of the flight.<br>
<br>
Phil (trigpoint)<br>
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On Wednesday, 11 August 2021, Tom Crocker wrote:<br>
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2021, 16:41 Michael Collinson, <<a
href="mailto:mike@ayeltd.biz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
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moz-do-not-send="true">mike@ayeltd.biz</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > I would hazard a guess that you are the first to
think of it and the if<br>
> > anyone else has it will Richard Fairhurst and
possibly Gervase Markham,<br>
> > (not sure if he is still active?).<br>
> ><br>
> > Looking a Bingley Five Rise, in 2008 I (cyclist
with very amateur interest<br>
> > in industrial heritage), mapped the the lock gates
themselves. In 2011,<br>
> > dysteleologist <<a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dysteleologist"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dysteleologist</a>>
with<br>
> > an interest in man-made waterways thought to think
of the locks themselves,<br>
> > creating canal way segments with lock=yes. At that
is as far as it has gone.<br>
> ><br>
> > Looks like a job for a relation? [Slight shudder
and exits stage left.]<br>
> ><br>
> > Mike<br>
> ><br>
> > <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.85572/-1.83772"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.85572/-1.83772</a>
Bingley Five Rise<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> Looks like another case where a general purpose group
relation would be<br>
> useful such as<br>
> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Group_Relation"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Group_Relation</a><br>
> Unfortunately I don't think there's any support for it
in renderers<br>
> currently.<br>
> <br>
> Tom<br>
> <br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
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