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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Tom,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/09/2021 22:19, Tom Crocker wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAHmUbmddxKYZmAV8jXGbqqWfFFVjD3sOz4-yz7L3ddSdCQ23Tw@mail.gmail.com">
So, specifically in Kielder, I would change the existing
landuse=forest areas to natural=wood. Add named areas of forest
with landuse=forest but also add cutlines between the natural=wood
areas when there's a narrow, relatively consistent gap - there's
quite a lot of these in Kielder. </blockquote>
After older debates, the tagging practice has been Approach 3 as in
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Forest">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Forest</a><br>
<p>This distinguishes natural=wood from landuse=forest in a similar
way to wild animals and cattle (analogy mugged from IT sysadmin
VMs).</p>
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<p>Most of Kielder consists of dense blocks of mechanically planted
lines of leaf_type=needleleaved managed for agri-business, so are
(almost) all tagged as landuse=forest.</p>
<p>After re-reading the expanded wiki, managed=yes,
operator='Forestry England' might be useful additions, as well as
the ongoing suggestion to add extra landuse=forestry to encompass
multiple areas of landuse=forest, or relations.<br>
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<p>I'd suggest reserving natural=wood for the Kielder areas
(typically around visitor sight lines) with 'natural' broad leaf
species which aren't cut for profit.<br>
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cite="mid:CAHmUbmddxKYZmAV8jXGbqqWfFFVjD3sOz4-yz7L3ddSdCQ23Tw@mail.gmail.com">Add
areas of grass, heath, wetland, etc elsewhere (James, <span
style="font-family:sans-serif">I don't know if you're aware of </span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif">JOSM's balloon tool which makes
th</span>is pretty easy?).</blockquote>
<p>That process was started, but there's a lot of Kielder...</p>
<p>A JOSM balloon tool is news to me, but after some poking around,
do you mean the plug-in ShrinkWrap perhaps?</p>
<p> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/ubipo/shrinkwrap">https://github.com/ubipo/shrinkwrap</a> <br>
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<p>Ooh! Shiny! Thanks! :-)<br>
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<p>Much of Kielder isn't bounded so might need some tweaks, but
Shinkwrap looks exceptionally useful for general landcover - add
boundary barrier=*, then click to generate an internal landuse=*
without having to manually trace the area with Follow.</p>
<p>Signing off now to try a new toy...</p>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">James
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