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I may not share Simon's slightly acid tongue :-) but I do agree with
him to use/promote the OSMF guidelines as much as possible. So I
stand slightly admonished for not noticing myself.<br>
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In copyright cases, the expressed published views of the publisher
carry weight - and corporate lawyers know that. In our our case, the
OSMF is the formal publisher: So please do reference OSMF site
versions of guidelines where possible. We were very careful when
setting them up to go through a formal process, including community
consultation and board level approval, so that they carry as much
weight as possible.<br>
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Mike<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-09-05 11:59, Kai Michael Poppe
- OSM wrote:<br>
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<p>Simon,</p>
<p>no. That box is not written in invisble ink. I wonder, though,
how linking to the Wiki within the community (this mailinglist)
wasn't the right way to answer Graham's question.</p>
<p>Kai<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05.09.2021 11:17, Simon Poole
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cite="mid:96fe5800-b695-f021-b3a0-09937893069a@poole.ch">Just a
note on the side:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guideline"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guideline</a>
has a big notice at the top that in my experience seems to be
written in invisible ink. you should always be referring to the
definite documents published by the OSMF and not, in the best
case historical, documents on the wiki, in this case
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline</a><br>
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Am 05.09.2021 um 06:44 schrieb Kai Michael Poppe: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Graham, <br>
<br>
the Wiki [1] it says: <br>
"So, we have focused on what "insubstantial" rather than
"substantial" means. We've set the boundary we are happy with
at basically: village map OK, town map not OK." <br>
(with that sentence describing where not attributing OSM would
be ok-ish) <br>
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As the map you linked is essentially a world-map that just
happens to only have POIs on the Island of Great Britain I
would always argue that that is substantial use. <br>
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I trust that you've seen the Wiki page [2] for pages lacking
proper attribution, there you'll also find an example email if
you need help telling them your concern. If you add the site
to the table on the site that would also be great for tracking
progress. <br>
<br>
Kai <br>
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[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guideline"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guideline</a><br>
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution</a>
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