<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 13:43, Steven Hirschorn <<a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I've been using amenity=escooter_rental in the absence of an agreed tag - internally consistent so that they can be replaced with an agreed alternative when/if one is agreed upon. taginfo didn't show any clear front-runners when I last looked.<div><br></div><div>The escooters, unlike the dockless bikes and ebikes, are expected to be returned to designated locations, so I think it would be really useful to see a map of those locations in one place to plan journeys (no point riding them towards a destination with no approved return locations). I'm aware though that unapproved tags won't be rendered yet.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wiki has "amenity=kick-scooter_rental" (note mixed punctuation): <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dkick-scooter_rental">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dkick-scooter_rental</a></div><div><br></div><div>This seems to include e-scooter rental - certainly both the photos currently shown on wiki are of e-scooter bays.</div><div><br></div><div>nb. "unlike the dockless bikes and ebikes" - in the City at least, dockless schemes are required to use designated return locations. I'm aware it's a bit sui generis, but I'd expect other LAs to have at least an aspiration to the same policy?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 13:14, David Groom <<a href="mailto:reviews@pacific-rim.net" target="_blank">reviews@pacific-rim.net</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><div>Just wondering how people are adding locations for electric kick scooter rental. There are a number of pages on the wiki, some in "proposal stage", and others which just seem to have been added ( see <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ElectricScooters#Ambiguous_current_situation_with_.27Scooters.27" style="font-size:12pt" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ElectricScooters#Ambiguous_current_situation_with_.27Scooters.27</a> for some examples) with no final consensus.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm aware of the 607 nodes added by CJ Malone for the Beryl bike scheme ( Isle of Wight area added in <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103830110" style="font-size:12pt" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103830110</a> but the nodes have no tag to show that these are electric kick scooters.</div><div><br></div>
<div>It would seem beneficial to add some information to these nodes to show they were for hire of electric kick scooters, and it would seem sensible to have a consensus of how these should be mapped in the UK. If at a later stage the worldwide OSM community does standardise on how they should be tagged then anything we do now should at least enable us to quickly identify which nodes in the UK would need amending to bring into line with intentional mapping practice.</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div id="gmail-m_1669854274169735929gmail-m_208278619876156407signature_old"></div><div><br></div>
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<div>From: "Cj Malone" <<a href="mailto:me-osm-talk-gb@keepawayfromfire.co.uk" target="_blank">me-osm-talk-gb@keepawayfromfire.co.uk</a>></div>
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<div>Sent: 21/04/2021 14:22:00</div>
<div>Subject: [Talk-GB] External data on bike rental locations</div><div><br></div>
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<tt><div>Hello everyone,</div>
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<div>I have just been given some data from beryl.cc for including in OSM.</div>
<div>They operate a bike rental scheme in a few locations around the</div>
<div>county. (BCP, Hereford, Isle of Wight, Norwich and Watford)</div>
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<div>The data provided includes "Beryl Bays" that are places that you</div>
<div>collect a bike, or leave it. And "Service Areas" which are the areas</div>
<div>you can travel on the bikes.</div>
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<div>How would everyone feel about me adding them?</div>
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<div>I feel the rental locations clearly belong in OSM.</div>
<div>The service areas may be more questionable, but I think it's valuable</div>
<div>data. Looking at the wiki they are quite close to</div>
<div>public_transport=pay_scale_area, although it doesn't have much usage.</div>
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<div>What are everyones opinions?</div>
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<div>Cj</div>
<div>OSM UK</div>
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