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<p>Similarly at my local Nisa
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/426680600#map=21/51.52788/-2.47118">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/426680600#map=21/51.52788/-2.47118</a>
many postal services are provided at the shop tills by the shop
staff, though there's a secure counter with shorter hours for some
things. There the PO is a node inside the shop outline. That
allows for different opening hours to be specified, but that might
not be a perfect match to reality given what I've just said.
Hours are useful, but I doubt many end users even know OSM has
them, let alone know how to access them so I don't see it as a
major problem.</p>
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<p>A big WHSmith, at least the one in Cardiff, tends to treat the PO
as an instore concession, with the need to pay for different
things in different places. Again the hours may differ.</p>
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<p>Chris<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/09/2021 02:18, SK53 wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">This is a very recent innovation: the standard
approach in the UK has always been amenity=post_office and
shop=* (more or less exactly why different keys are used). I see
no advantage in this somewhat more obscure approach, which was
apparently adopted with no knowledge that the situation had been
tagged perfectly adequately since the early days of OSM.
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<div dir="auto">I vaguely recall that some of the post_partner
use cases are not analagous to the sub post office. Also, at
least in Switzerland, post offices located in shops are very
recent compared with the UK (I can't recall any 15 years ago).
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<div dir="auto">In larger shops, as others have said the post
office can be mapped separately. However, if one does not
have the time to check inside, the two tags on a single node
or way is still appropriate (WH Smith in Chester is one I
mapped this way).</div>
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<div dir="auto">In terms of iD this means entering the tags
directly, and will create some notional ambiguity with
respect to use if brand tags. However, this latter situation
is encountered elsewhere (Burtons/Dorothy Perkins; Top
Shop/Top Man, various iterations of Dixons Stores Group plc
fascias etc.) In the past Bryan and other iD maintainers
have stated that design goals have been simplicity and ease
of use for inexperienced users and have therefore not felt
the need to handle this type of situation. However, in an
unmapped area post offices are likely to be amongst the
first POIs to be mapped.</div>
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<div dir="auto">BTW: my local sub-post office has always had a
single counter, divided in two with separate tills (the post
office side takes cards, the convenience store side
doesn't). Most of the time there is only one person serving.
When I was a child, and when post offices were thicker on
the ground, this latter aspect was pretty much the norm. The
counters were perhaps more distinct, and cage like: the cash
aspect of post offices always represents a security problem,
and on days when people collected pension or family
allowance more so. This surely also required more than one
person at these busy times, particularly as the shop side
probably sold sweets by weight as well.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Jerry</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 13 Sep 2021, 22:36
Martin Wynne, <<a href="mailto:martin@85a.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">martin@85a.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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13/09/2021 21:51, Mark Goodge wrote:<br>
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> This must, surely, be a fairly common occurrence for
sub-Post Offices. <br>
> How is this sort of situation normally tagged?<br>
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According to the wiki, this situation is covered as<br>
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name=Spar<br>
post_office=post_partner<br>
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href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpost_office"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpost_office</a><br>
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