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<p>Hello Sonya,</p>
<p>> In restrictions sometimes there can be missing roles, and
we delete it, because it's broken</p>
<p>No, as has already been said over at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2021-September/072960.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2021-September/072960.html</a>
that is not the correct approach.</p>
<p>You have been given lots of advice on mailing lists and Github
issues, which you seem to have mostly ignored. Your mappers also
seem to be ignoring OpenStreetMap changeset discussions (to take
just one example -
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=10398649">https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=10398649</a>
has no replies to the 8 questions asked in the last fortnight).</p>
<p>This behaviour is not OK. Please ensure that all your employees
immediately reply to the questions that other mappers have asked
them, and that you follow all the advice that you have been
given. Please also ensure that your mappers review all their
previous changes made in this series of organised edits and ensure
that they repair any damage that they have caused (some, like
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/111251617">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/111251617</a> have already
been repaired by local mappers).<br>
</p>
<p>Failing to do this would mean that we (the DWG) will be forced to
prevent further edits by those editors damaging the database in
this way until they have been suitably trained. We may also need
to revert some of your teams' recent edits. In the meantime we
will alert those mappers we can identify how have not replied to
comments asking that they do so.<br>
</p>
<p>Please also ensure that your replies to list posts go to the
list, not to the individual who sent the message to the list.<br>
</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy (local GB mapper, and also a member of OSM's Data Working
Group)<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/09/2021 12:55, Sonya Khilchyk
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi! Thanks for your comment.
<div>We're not local in these countries and ground truth sources
that we used are from osm. It can be bing, maxar, etc and of
course street level pictures: mapillary, openstreetcam, etc. </div>
<div>We did changes only if we saw it in osm sources. In
restrictions sometimes there can be missing roles, and we
delete it, because it's broken. If we have a source for
mapping - we will do it. If you have data where there are some
restrictions on the road - map it or share open sources with
us please. <br>
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<div><font face="Slack-Lato, appleLogo, sans-serif"
color="#1d1c1d"><span
style="font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;background-color:rgb(248,248,248)">Best
regards, Sonya</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 11:30
AM Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Thanks (the way ID is actually <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/151523839"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/151523839</a>
for anyone interested).</p>
<p>Incidentally, there has recently been a report (in Italy)
of "Mapbox mappers just deleting relations that they don't
understand"
<a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2021-September/072960.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2021-September/072960.html</a>
and I've just seen edits with poor descriptions in France
that may be similar - <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/111276977"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/111276977</a>
.</p>
<p>Do some of your mappers perhaps need more help dealing
with some of these issues?</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy<br>
</p>
<div>On 13/09/2021 10:59, Sonya Khilchyk wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi! Sure, here it <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?changeset=110460358#map=19/51.75967/8.07341"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">is</a>.
<div>Best regards, Sonya</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 12, 2021
at 3:07 PM Andy Townsend <<a
href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>(resending, as my reply 5 days ago didn't make
it to the list for some reason)<br>
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<div>On 07/09/2021 15:18, Andy Townsend wrote:<br>
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<div>On 30/08/2021 13:03, Sonya Khilchyk via
Talk-GB wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi! We had a question "<span>can
you explain (on talk-gb please) how your
software will detect something that is
"mixedlayer" and why it is a problem?" in
our ticket on github.</span>
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BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI Variable,
Segoe UI, system-ui, ui-sans-serif,
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, Apple Color
Emoji, Segoe UI Emoji" color="#24292f">So,
there's an answer:<br>
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<div>It is detected by different conditions
which describe logical mistakes in
mapping. <br>
Example: mixed layer category. <br>
It describes features where a highway
crosses another highway with a different
layer tag.<br>
There're roads with different layer
values. It's obvious there that these
roads are on the same layer (=0) and we
need to fix it.
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<p>Thanks. Can you actually link to the way IDs
involved so that we can see the before and after
values, and whether they actually join or not?</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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