<div dir="ltr"><div>I've uploaded the photo and it's clear it is actually a bus stand <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:42_Hertford_Road,_London.jpg">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:42_Hertford_Road,_London.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>Now how do I tag this as a bus stand? I can't see anything in the wiki under <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop</a> or anywhere else<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 15:01, <<a href="mailto:talk-gb-request@openstreetmap.org">talk-gb-request@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
1. Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active (Mat Attlee)<br>
2. Re: Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active (David Woolley)<br>
3. Re: Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active (Martin Wynne)<br>
4. Re: Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active (Russ Garrett)<br>
5. Re: Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active (Ken Kilfedder)<br>
6. Re: Unwarranted clearing of map notes by new person (Tom Hughes)<br>
7. Re: Unwarranted clearing of map notes by new person (Tony Shield)<br>
8. Re: Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active (Mat Attlee)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 12:18:28 +0100<br>
From: Mat Attlee <<a href="mailto:mattattlee@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattattlee@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Talk-GB <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: [Talk-GB] Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active<br>
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The other day I stumbled upon an unmapped bus stop which I've added to the<br>
map: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017</a><br>
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I am trying to find more details about the stop but it doesn't seem to be<br>
listed on TFL, is it possible it's no longer in use?<br>
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I took a photo of the stop and there is nothing saying it is closed though<br>
the stop does say: buses do not pick up passengers here<br>
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 12:44:17 +0100<br>
From: David Woolley <<a href="mailto:forums@david-woolley.me.uk" target="_blank">forums@david-woolley.me.uk</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active<br>
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On 27/09/2021 12:18, Mat Attlee wrote:<br>
> The other day I stumbled upon an unmapped bus stop which I've added to <br>
> the map: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017</a> <br>
> <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017</a>><br>
> <br>
> I am trying to find more details about the stop but it doesn't seem to <br>
> be listed on TFL, is it possible it's no longer in use?<br>
> <br>
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Are you sure that it is actually a stop and not a stand <br>
<<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_stand" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_stand</a>>? The only reference to the <br>
latter that I can find in the OSM wiki is a passing one about excluding <br>
them from routes <br>
<<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bus_routes_in_London" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bus_routes_in_London</a>>. They really <br>
need to positively identified, as they need to be mapped, if only to <br>
stop people mapping them as stops.<br>
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Please double check your photo.<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 12:54:00 +0100<br>
From: Martin Wynne <<a href="mailto:martin@85a.uk" target="_blank">martin@85a.uk</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active<br>
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On 27/09/2021 12:18, Mat Attlee wrote:<br>
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> I took a photo of the stop and there is nothing saying it is closed <br>
> though the stop does say: buses do not pick up passengers here<br>
> <br>
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It's outside a school so presumably for school buses only?<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 13:00:58 +0100<br>
From: Russ Garrett <<a href="mailto:russ@garrett.co.uk" target="_blank">russ@garrett.co.uk</a>><br>
To: David Woolley <<a href="mailto:forums@david-woolley.me.uk" target="_blank">forums@david-woolley.me.uk</a>><br>
Cc: Talk GB <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active<br>
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Yes, it sounds likely that it's a stand.<br>
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It doesn't appear in NaPTAN which is a relatively authoritative source<br>
for bus stops.<br>
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Russ<br>
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On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 12:51, David Woolley <<a href="mailto:forums@david-woolley.me.uk" target="_blank">forums@david-woolley.me.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 27/09/2021 12:18, Mat Attlee wrote:<br>
> > The other day I stumbled upon an unmapped bus stop which I've added to<br>
> > the map: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017</a><br>
> > <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017</a>><br>
> ><br>
> > I am trying to find more details about the stop but it doesn't seem to<br>
> > be listed on TFL, is it possible it's no longer in use?<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> Are you sure that it is actually a stop and not a stand<br>
> <<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_stand" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_stand</a>>? The only reference to the<br>
> latter that I can find in the OSM wiki is a passing one about excluding<br>
> them from routes<br>
> <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bus_routes_in_London" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bus_routes_in_London</a>>. They really<br>
> need to positively identified, as they need to be mapped, if only to<br>
> stop people mapping them as stops.<br>
><br>
> Please double check your photo.<br>
><br>
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 13:09:47 +0100<br>
From: "Ken Kilfedder" <<a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk" target="_blank">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a>><br>
To: "Dave F via Talk-GB" <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active<br>
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A certain inadmissible street-side imagery source shows it as a TfL-owned bus stand, with this text on it-<br>
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Bus Stand<br>
Buses do not pick up passengers here<br>
Hereford Road<br>
Drivers must switch off engines whilst on stand <br>
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2021, at 12:18 PM, Mat Attlee wrote:<br>
> The other day I stumbled upon an unmapped bus stop which I've added to the map: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017</a><br>
> <br>
> I am trying to find more details about the stop but it doesn't seem to be listed on TFL, is it possible it's no longer in use?<br>
> <br>
> I took a photo of the stop and there is nothing saying it is closed though the stop does say: buses do not pick up passengers here<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 13:22:30 +0100<br>
From: Tom Hughes <<a href="mailto:tom@compton.nu" target="_blank">tom@compton.nu</a>><br>
To: Tony Shield <<a href="mailto:tonyosm9@gmail.com" target="_blank">tonyosm9@gmail.com</a>>, Talk GB<br>
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On 27/09/2021 11:06, Tony Shield wrote:<br>
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> *Shane Sharples* <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Shane%20Sharples" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Shane%20Sharples</a>> <br>
> has resolved one of your map notes near Golden Hill, Leyland, South <br>
> Ribble, Lancashire, North West England, England, PR25 3UA, United Kingdom.<br>
> <br>
> More details about the note can be found at <br>
> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2678449" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2678449</a> <br>
> <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2678449" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2678449</a>>.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On checking it I found no edits to the map, I also noted that 7 or so <br>
> other edits in Leyland had been resolved by this user. This user only <br>
> joined OSM on 25 September - 2 days ago -? and has no edits to his name.<br>
> <br>
> I don't know how to undo his resolves, I would like those notes back so <br>
> that I can survey them when I have time or someone edits the map to fix.<br>
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I've been in contact with him and I think he was just confused.<br>
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I think he had the notes layer turned on and thought that the green<br>
tick meant something was a published listing so was resolving things<br>
in order to "publish" them.<br>
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Tom<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 13:57:38 +0100<br>
From: Tony Shield <<a href="mailto:tonyosm9@gmail.com" target="_blank">tonyosm9@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Tom Hughes <<a href="mailto:tom@compton.nu" target="_blank">tom@compton.nu</a>>, Talk GB <<a href="mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Unwarranted clearing of map notes by new person<br>
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Thanks Tom,<br>
<br>
I've also been in contact and have just edited/updated the map with the <br>
two points of interest.<br>
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Tony<br>
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On 27/09/2021 13:22, Tom Hughes wrote:<br>
> On 27/09/2021 11:06, Tony Shield wrote:<br>
><br>
>> *Shane Sharples* <br>
>> <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Shane%20Sharples" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Shane%20Sharples</a>> has resolved <br>
>> one of your map notes near Golden Hill, Leyland, South Ribble, <br>
>> Lancashire, North West England, England, PR25 3UA, United Kingdom.<br>
>><br>
>> More details about the note can be found at <br>
>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2678449" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2678449</a> <br>
>> <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2678449" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2678449</a>>.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On checking it I found no edits to the map, I also noted that 7 or so <br>
>> other edits in Leyland had been resolved by this user. This user only <br>
>> joined OSM on 25 September - 2 days ago -? and has no edits to his name.<br>
>><br>
>> I don't know how to undo his resolves, I would like those notes back <br>
>> so that I can survey them when I have time or someone edits the map <br>
>> to fix.<br>
><br>
> I've been in contact with him and I think he was just confused.<br>
><br>
> I think he had the notes layer turned on and thought that the green<br>
> tick meant something was a published listing so was resolving things<br>
> in order to "publish" them.<br>
><br>
> Tom<br>
><br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 14:57:22 +0100<br>
From: Mat Attlee <<a href="mailto:mattattlee@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattattlee@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Talk-GB <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Finding out if a TFL bus stop is still active<br>
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Thank you everyone for the feedback. Checking my photo (what is the best<br>
way to share a photo with the list?) I can confirm it is just a bus stand<br>
though how does one tag a stand? I can't find any examples of this in the<br>
wiki<br>
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On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 12:18, Mat Attlee <<a href="mailto:mattattlee@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattattlee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> The other day I stumbled upon an unmapped bus stop which I've added to the<br>
> map: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9126413017</a><br>
><br>
> I am trying to find more details about the stop but it doesn't seem to be<br>
> listed on TFL, is it possible it's no longer in use?<br>
><br>
> I took a photo of the stop and there is nothing saying it is closed though<br>
> the stop does say: buses do not pick up passengers here<br>
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