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<p>Maybe I'm misunderstanding your use of addr:street and addr:place
-- but I note on
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:place">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:place</a> that there is
an explicit statement that:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">No object should have <tt dir="ltr"
class="mw-content-ltr"
style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi
style="white-space:nowrap"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">addr:place</a></bdi>=*</tt>
and <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"
style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><bdi
style="white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:street"
class="mw-redirect" title="Key:addr:street">addr:street</a></bdi>=*</tt>
at the same time.</blockquote>
Also (just checked, as memory like a sieve) JOSM complains if you
add both addr:street and addr:place.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Neil<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/12/2021 16:03, Rob Nickerson
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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<div>I hope many of you are now managing to relax and enjoy the
Christmas break. For those still working, I hope it drops away
soon and you are able to enjoy a break soon.</div>
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<div>As previously discussed, OSM UK is running a project to
make it easier to collect address data in the UK. As a quick
recap, the aim is to create a simple user interface where
anyone (existing and new mappers) can add address data. The
interface will be populated with a series of points where we
believe there to be an address (filtered to avoid duplication
with any existing OSM data) and the user will be asked to
input the top part of the address.</div>
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<div>One of the challenges we have is making sure that the right
part of the address is assigned to the right addr:* tag in
OpenStreetMap. We have therefore been studying the address
tags and how they are used in the UK. Suffice to say it is not
straightforward and without its inconsistencies. I have
therefore produced the following wiki page to help other
mappers understand the soup of available tags and which are
better / worse to use.<br>
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<div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses_in_the_United_Kingdom"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses_in_the_United_Kingdom</a>
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<div>You will see on the page that one of the concepts we
struggle with is when you need both a parent and child part of
the local area to describe a complete address. In Royal Mail's
language they use a "thoroughfare" and "dependent
thoroughfare" whilst in OpenStreetMap we seem to have multiple
tag options. For the OSM UK project we want to keep it simple
and not bombard new mappers with the details of conflicting /
inconsistent OSM tags. As such we plan to use addr:place
(child) and addr:street (parent) for these parent and child
relationships.</div>
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<div>Please let me know if you have any feedback. I will try my
utmost to take this on board but a word of warning: I have
found OSM tags to be inconsistent and not straightforward. I
will try my best but cannot work miracles even at this time of
the year!<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>P.S. The wiki page is very much focussed on the top part of
an address. This is intentional as it is what we will focus on
in the OSM UK project. These address parts require ground
survey (or local knowledge) whereas some of the lower elements
of an address can be determined by admin boundaries / nearness
to existing OSM data.<br>
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<div>Thank you<br>
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