<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Verdana;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Verdana;"><br></div><div>On Wed, 5 Jan 2022, at 3:14 PM, Simon Poole wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><p>IMHO still -far- too complicated.<br></p><p>addr:substreet is not necessary simply always use addr:street for
the street the house number is relative is too, or addr:place if
the house number is relative to a non-street.<br></p></blockquote><div style="font-family:Verdana;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Verdana;">A agree with this, and with Simon's analysis in general. I just wanted to add, that I'd also apply this logic to terraces. If there is an Albion Terrace with housenumbers that related to it; then the correct tagging in OSM ought to be addr:street=Albion Terrace, with an optional addr:parentstreet if needed.<br></div><div style="font-family:Verdana;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Verdana;">I think Simon is correct in general because adding a tier that's logically between addr:housenumber and addr:street (e.g. addr:substreet) means that we will inevitably end up with two different buildings that are both correctly tagged addr:housenumber=2 and addr:street=Festive Road. (The fact that one of them is also tagged with addr:substreet=Acacia Walk would be missed by data consumers and validators without a total rewrite of loads of OSM tooling.)<br></div><div style="font-family:Verdana;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Verdana;"><br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><p>If there is a further level of (non-conventional) localisation
required use<br></p><p>addr:parentXXXXXX (just one value, but neutral if it refers to a
street or place).<br></p><p>addr:hamlet, addr:village: addr:town and addr:suburb all seem to
be the same thing in the hierarchy, choose one and stick with it.<br></p><p>So that would boil down to (leaving building internal references
away)<br></p><p>addr:housename <br></p><p>addr:housenumber<br></p><p>addr:street / addr:place<br></p><p>addr:parentsomething (where necessary)<br></p><p>addr:suburb (where necessary)<br></p><p>addr:city<br></p><p>addr:postcode<br></p><p>That's 8 tags instead of 13 and introduces just -one- new tag
instead of 5, something that is much more reasonable to ask
consumers to do.<br></p><p>Simon<br></p><div class="qt-moz-cite-prefix">Am 01.01.2022 um 14:01 schrieb Rob
Nickerson:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAK4yQTkGq2kOeOqR6w_TFB7kkXRLGG8ysL3+ZXE6ydLHeio55w@mail.gmail.com"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Happy new year to all :-)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for all the comments received in regards to the
addr:* tags and how to apply them to map addresses in the
United Kingdom. I shared some thoughts on how to resolve the
comments at the time (e.g. my 22 December email [1]). This
email is just to confirm that I have now found the time to
make all the updates to the wiki page. You can view the
updated page at:<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses_in_the_United_Kingdom" class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses_in_the_United_Kingdom</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I will keep an eye on the replies here and on the wiki
Discussion page so feel free to post to either place should
you have feedback.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 255);"><b>Rob</b></span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2021-December/028267.html" class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2021-December/028267.html</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><pre class="qt-moz-quote-pre">_______________________________________________
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