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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/01/2022 10:37, Paul Berry wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Mat,
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<div>Interesting question. Sam Smith's tend to be quiet, in
terms of pub frontage/signage, that they're the operator
(though it's obvious once you're inside) so I wouldn't say
they "brand" their pubs. Contrast with, say, Wetherspoons, who
always appear to declare they're a "Wetherspoons Free House"
before you enter. Both are operators without doubt, but are
they both brands?</div>
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<div>Pubs and mapping seem to be soul mates in terms of
interests so expect some further discussion!</div>
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<div>Regards,<br>
<i>Paul</i></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 10:24,
Mat Attlee <<a href="mailto:mattattlee@gmail.com"
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<div>I've noticed that there isn't a NSI entry for Samuel
Smith pubs so I am going to create one but before I do,
are they the brand or operator? To date it has been tagged
as the operator eg but wanted to double check</div>
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<p>Sam Smith's are the direct operator of all of their pubs (and it
is arguably also the "brand", since they are pretty consistent
outside as well as in*). I believe that the last Sam Smith's pub
not run directly by the brewery was The Ebor in Bishopthorpe near
York (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/643438276">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/643438276</a> ), but when the
previous landlord died (during the first Covid wave) it closed,
and the word locally was that the company was looking for a
manager. <br>
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<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
<p>* this wasn't always the case - going back 20 years or so there
were some that had a more tangential connection - I think that
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258325076/history">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258325076/history</a> was one.<br>
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