<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp46c47dc1yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hi Martin,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I am sorry, but we really should not be looking at ways to falsify data, in order to get Strava (or any other app, renderer, or user) to behave sensibly. If Strava chooses to ignore barriers, that is Strava's problem.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">We hear a lot on this group about "don't tag for the renderer". I would refine that slightly; If any tags are used to render a map, (or to select a route), the tagging is benefitting the renderer (or other app), so we are always "tagging for the / a / some renderer(s)". If we don't want out tagging to be used to render a map, the whole of OSM will become a "write-only" database, of no use to anyone. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">What we should never do (IMHO) is MIS-tag for the renderer. We should not tag one thing as being something else in order to make it render on our perferred map. So (to make up a fictitious example), if walls are rendered on you favourite map, but fences are not, DO NOT re-tag a fence as a wall, in order to see it on the map. Instead, go and talk to the renderer and ask / suggest / demand that they render fences, as well as walls.</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Just my 2p.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div class="ydp46c47dc1signature"><div style="font-family:new times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div>Regards,</div><div dir="ltr">Peter</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">(aka PeterPan99)</div></div></div></div>
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On Sunday, 6 February 2022, 13:09:33 GMT, Martin Wynne <martin@85a.uk> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">All these suggestions for tagging such paths are fine.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">But they are not going to prevent the Strava algorithm from detecting <br clear="none">the route as a public highway, which was the original request. I have <br clear="none">seen Strava routes go straight through barriers marked as brick walls, <br clear="none">so a hazard=yes tag isn't going to stop them.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The only way to do that is to put a gap in it, so that it becomes two <br clear="none">dead ends instead of a through route. Or else remove the highway tag <br clear="none">entirely.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">There must surely be a short section of it where it becomes very <br clear="none">indistinct on the ground? If not, perhaps you could create one on site? <br clear="none">You can then remove that section from the route - no such path exists. <br clear="none">If the path is a genuine hazard to life and limb it would be a laudable <br clear="none">way to spend an afternoon with a shovel.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">cheers,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Martin.<div class="ydp8d1ccd45yqt7322083260" id="ydp8d1ccd45yqtfd37469"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Talk-GB mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" fg_scanned="1">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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