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My ears are burning...<br>
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This highlights my long held belief about 'validators' such as
maproulette which induce contributors to believe that the OSM
database is 100% definitely incorrect without doing any personal
research. The delay in database updates, in this instance.<br>
<br>
Please pay attention when editing in OSM. Don't amend unless you're
absolutely sure.<br>
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DaveF <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/02/2022 08:54, Tom Crocker wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Ken
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<div dir="auto">I think both of those had water=* tags on them
(the ditch was edited by DaveF 8 hours ago) so I guess that's
the cause.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 10 Feb 2022, 08:22 Ken
Kilfedder, <<a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:Verdana">This challenge appears to
be suggesting ways that should not be closed polygons.
Can I ask what your criteria for detecting an unclosed
polygon are?<br>
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<div style="font-family:Verdana">Two examples:-</div>
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<div style="font-family:Verdana"><a
href="https://maproulette.org/challenge/25103/task/124729534"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://maproulette.org/challenge/25103/task/124729534</a></div>
<div style="font-family:Verdana"><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/722682775"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/722682775</a></div>
<div style="font-family:Verdana">A waterway=ditch, which per
the wiki, should only be an unclosed way.<br>
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<div style="font-family:Verdana"><a
href="https://maproulette.org/challenge/25103/task/124729661"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://maproulette.org/challenge/25103/task/124729661</a></div>
<div style="font-family:Verdana"><a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/183223676"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/183223676</a><br>
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<div style="font-family:Verdana">A highway=path, which would
not normally be a polygon.</div>
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<div><a href="https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain</a><br>
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<div><a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a><br>
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<div>On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, at 6:56 PM, TomTom OSM wrote:<br>
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<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white"><span
style="color:rgb(23,43,77)"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt">Hello everyone,</span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(23,43,77)"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt"> </span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(23,43,77)"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt">I'm Marjan from TomTom.</span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(23,43,77)"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt">I would like to inform
you of an editing project we are planning to
execute in the United Kingdom. The aim is to fix
non-closed polygons, i.e. cases where the tag on
a way indicates that it is a polygon feature,
but the way is not closed, or ways with the same
role in a relation are not closed. We detect
quality issues like this using public instances
of OSM quality checking tools such as Atlas and
Osmose in addition to internal validation. The
non-closed polygons can be fixed in the
following MapRoulette challenge:</span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="color:white"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt"><a
href="https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/25103"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:rgb(59,115,175)">https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/25103</span></a></span></span></span><span
style="color:rgb(23,43,77)"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt"></span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(23,43,77)"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt">This challenge already
contains a selection of tasks that you can look
into, and more will be added in the following
day.<br>
Our expert editors will start to work on these
tasks in a few weeks.</span></span></span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(23,43,77)"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt">Don't hesitate to take
a look at the link, and let me know if you have
any questions or suggestions. For more
information about our organised editing
activities, you can check out <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/TomTom"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:rgb(59,115,175)">our wiki page</span></a>.<br>
If you wish to contribute to any of our
challenges yourself, you are very welcome to do
so.</span></span></span></p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(23,43,77)"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt"> </span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p
style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;background-image:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:white;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(23,43,77)"><span
style="font-family:"Segoe
UI",sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt">Marjan</span></span></span><br>
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