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On 02/12/2022 10:17 PM Andrew Hain <andrewhainosm@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
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I remain unconvinced that the road is called Boat Lane at all. When OS Opendata was first released a quite unfamiliar spelling of a road near where I was brought up was copied into OSM; in this case the discrepancy with the addresses is a red flag against the accuracy of OS products.
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The OS are not the owners of this data - it is passed to them from the National Gazetteer and other authoritative sources. If the OS give you bad data, it may be a case of garbage in, garbage out. To get it fixed, the local highways authority is the place to start; any changes will filter through to the OS in due course. Sometimes road signs are wrong...
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As to whether the road is "called" Boat Lane: By whom? Again, that question should be directed initially at the highways authority, who feed into the Gazetteer.
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong> Mark Goodge <mark@good-stuff.co.uk><br><strong>Sent:</strong> 12 February 2022 17:48<br><strong>To:</strong> Talk GB <talk-gb@openstreetmap.org><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Talk-GB] Non-intuitive addresses</span>
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<br>On 12/02/2022 17:21, Colin Smale wrote:
<br>>> On 02/12/2022 5:44 PM Mark Goodge <mark@good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
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<br>>> In this particular case, Abbots Walk is not a substreet or, in
<br>>> Royal Mail terms, a dependent thoroughfare. It *is* the street name
<br>>> (or, in RM terms, thoroughfare) in the address, despite the fact
<br>>> that the houses actually face onto a street with a different name.
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<br>> The postal addresses of these premises (1-4 Abbots Walk, and 1-2
<br>> Ferry Cottages, Abbots Walk) are pretty clear to me as they are to
<br>> RM. Other types of address label these properties differently, but if
<br>> we stick to the paradigm that "addr:* is for *postal* addresses, why
<br>> the discussion? Or are we making life difficult by creating
<br>> exceptions and special cases?
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<br>In this particular case, I don't think there is any real difficulty as
<br>far as the building addresses are concerned. It's the name of the street
<br>which is the issue here, and, since there is an open data source for the
<br>correct name, I don't see any problem with changing it in OSM. My real
<br>concern here is how best to ensure that the ensuing mismatch between
<br>postal address and street name is not wrongly interpreted as an error,
<br>and reverted back to the wrong name by someone who mistakenly thinks
<br>they are fixing it. Plus, there's the secondary question of how to map
<br>the name of the block, which is about labelling rather than addressing.
<br>But, again, that's not really a major problem.
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<br>I'm more concerned about the Huxleys Way addresses, where I know that
<br>they are currently wrongly tagged but I have no open data or
<br>on-the-ground source to cite in support of any changes I make. That's
<br>why I'm interested in how other mappers have dealt with the same problem
<br>when they've encountered it elsewhere.
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<br>Mark
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