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<p>More of an issue on big roundabouts is when it's possible to
follow a lane in ideal circumstances at 40-50, and the implied
limit is 60, but the lines of sight mean that a lower speed is
needed. For example a tractor or cyclist pulls out when there's
nothing visibly coming, but hasn't got very far when there's a car
doing 40 towards their right hand side. A speed limit then is
both guidance an objective/enforceable measure of what's too
fast. <br>
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<p>So reduced speed limits on big roundabouts are becoming more
common (Bristol and Kidderminster ring roads spring to mind)
though by no means universal - not on the A47 in Norfolk and the
one at Hardwicke (Gloucester) is emphatically 60 (Street View:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8057662,-2.2903665,3a,75y,39.65h,67.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sabEkxyqZxKkst2VWftWGHQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656">https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8057662,-2.2903665,3a,75y,39.65h,67.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sabEkxyqZxKkst2VWftWGHQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656</a>
). I cycle through this one sometimes (there's a bypassing bike
path in one direction but it leads to a standing start onto the
dual carriageway just after the roundabout)</p>
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<p>Philosophically - if the roundabout is not navigable at 60mph
then any incident which occurs is dependant on culpability for
careless, dangerous or reckless driving - I suspect that is the
thought of a local authority or police officer.</p>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Ah, but all the roads are
lit by streetlights and there are (occasional) "National
Speed Limit" signs on all approach roads to the
roundabout... ...and the roundabout is not a residential
street, so I reckon (based on very little knowledge) that
the National Speed Limit still applies there... ... but
which one? The roundabout is a sort-of dual carriageway;
you are separated from the traffic going in the opposite
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Is the roundabout lit by street lights? If so, it's
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