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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/04/2022 13:52, Alan Mackie wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at
            12:49, Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com"
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            Thanks for mentioning verges. <climbs soapbox> As
            someone who fairly <br>
            regularly walks along rural roads it's really useful to know
            which roads <br>
            have usable verges.  They're no use to cyclists though, and
            I suspect <br>
            that the small gaps between the painted edge of the
            carriageway on some <br>
            "expressway-style" UK roads are.  How should those be
            tagged?  Some of <br>
            the Americans mentioned earlier would call that a "narrow
            shoulder"; I <br>
            probably wouldn't - but what is it?<br>
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            Best Regards,<br>
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            Andy<br>
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          <div>I've wondered about this one myself. I've seen quite a
            few roads where no one has created dedicated pedestrian
            infrastructure, but you can walk just fine on the grass. It
            seems like we need a hyperlocal "abutters" tag.</div>
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    <p><climbs back on soapbox again></p>
    <p>The "verge" tag is perfect for these places.  Use it just like
      you'd use a sidewalk tag if you were tagging a sidewalk value on a
      road.  See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:verge">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:verge</a> .</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=16&lat=54.18657&lon=-1.18293">https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=16&lat=54.18657&lon=-1.18293</a>
      shows verges on most roads with a green casing (and sidewalks with
      a grey casing) to distinguish them from roads with no verges (or
      sidewalks).</p>
    <p>Best Regards,</p>
    <p>Andy</p>
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