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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/07/2022 14:40, Chris Andrew
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<div>Looks like '<a href="http://thecircuit.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">thecircuit.uk</a>' needs the
following when registering a defibrillator.</div>
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Interesting detail Chris - thanks.<br>
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will need to know the location and surroundings of the
defibrillator</li>
<li style="margin:20px
0px;padding:0px;font-size:1.125rem;line-height:1.875rem"><i
style="width:21px;height:30px;margin-right:8px"><img
src="https://www.thecircuit.uk/Assets/img/landing/ico-model.svg"
style="vertical-align:middle;border-style:none;margin:auto;max-width:100%;width:21px;height:30px"
moz-do-not-send="true"></i>You will need the brand,
model and device serial number</li>
<li style="margin:20px
0px;padding:0px;font-size:1.125rem;line-height:1.875rem"><i
style="width:21px;height:30px;margin-right:8px"><img
src="https://www.thecircuit.uk/Assets/img/landing/ico-lock.svg"
style="vertical-align:middle;border-style:none;margin:auto;max-width:100%;width:21px;height:30px"
moz-do-not-send="true"></i>You will need to know
when the defibrillator is accessible</li>
<li style="margin:20px
0px;padding:0px;font-size:1.125rem;line-height:1.875rem"><i
style="width:21px;height:30px;margin-right:8px"><img
src="https://www.thecircuit.uk/Assets/img/landing/ico-battery.svg"
alt=""
style="vertical-align:middle;border-style:none;margin:auto;max-width:100%;width:21px;height:30px"
moz-do-not-send="true"></i>You will need to know
when the pads expire and if the battery displays its
ready signal i.e. a green light, so we can understand if
it's emergency ready</li>
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<p>After very recently re-qualifying as a first aider, the paramedic
trainer gave us more info on AEDs. Basically, the instructions are
specifically designed to make then _very_ easy to use, but both
the pads used on a patient and the battery packs have expiry dates
around 2-5 years. AEDs self-test regularly. Availability of
supplies at the moment isn't great, but that will pass.<br>
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<p>Whilst I can understand the value of an Ambulance Service
collecting data on the unit and ancillaries as a means of checking
the likely condition of a defib (e.g. has it been serviced? does
it have an outstanding recall? are the pads in-date?), this isn't
a level of detail that is available from survey, nor ideal for
holding in OSM. The best we can do is look for a green light on
the device - if you can see it through the protective case!<br>
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<p>My personal mapping has been focused on locating (typically
rural) defibs, and their access process (e.g. get a mechanical
lock code from a 999 operator), rather than the serial number and
service history.</p>
My most recent survey is a good example - surveying for a (very)
rural post_box, I added a defib on a farm house end wall. Location,
access process, and even manufacturer can be gathered - but not much
more.<br>
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Should we follow post_boxes and add "<font size="4">check_date:collection_times
= 2022-06-28</font>" to give an indication of when the defib was
last visually seen to exist? <br>
<pre><font size="5"><b>defibrillator:</b><b>check_date = </b><b> 2022-06-28 perhaps?</b></font>
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<p>(Yeah, I know about changeset date, but was the last an armchair
edit to maintain a tag, or ground truth? I've performed both.)</p>
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<p>On Sat, 2 Jul 2022, 14:12 Jass Kurn, <<a
href="mailto:jasskurn@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div dir="ltr">This Circuit may have received data from
other databases, but it appears much of the data is
newly created. Defibrillator data is added by the
owner(s) of the defibrillator, which are commonly
local community organisations.</div>
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<p>That makes sense - top-down registration <b>for a device
custodian</b> with validation for an Ambulance Service to hold
and access. They could also co-ordinate reminders for servicing.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">James
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