<div dir="ltr"><div>If the council are installing these themselves, or even if subcontracting the work, I would imagine they'd store positions within the GIS and use that to create job cards for the work required (this was talked about a fair bit at a QGIS user meeting years ago). Given that awareness of the locations of other street furniture ought to play a part in siting new stands, I'd have thought data will come from the GIS and most likely will have been related to existing GIS layers & Master Map. Of course actual installed locations may differ slightly as I doubt if the people doing the work carry fancy GPS.</div><div><br></div><div>Obviously for things like lampposts accurate location is critical as a lighting plan will have been used to minimise their number for a given coverage, but I've always wondered about tree locations from open data sources. Most seem very accurate, with a few glitches. Certainly standard survey tools do involve a GPS, perhaps with some improved resolution from ground stations. <br></div><div><br></div><div>In all these cases, using Google maps or similar aerial providers seems the least likely approach.</div><div><br></div><div>Jerry <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 at 18:50, Steven Hirschorn <<a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yes, that is what I meant - my understanding of the Google licence terms last time I read them was that you could not use any georeferences generated on a Google Map in any other product. Happy to be corrected if they've relaxed the terms. I was speculating that if Hackney council displayed the geopoints on a Leaflet Map they may already have determined that Google weren't involved in creating the georeferences. Best to ask (but I find that's when the email thread dies!)</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 at 18:12, David Woolley <<a href="mailto:forums@david-woolley.me.uk" target="_blank">forums@david-woolley.me.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 16/08/2022 18:03, Steven Hirschorn wrote:<br>
> Having said that, I just looked at the link and they're showing the <br>
> locations on a Leaflet OSM map, which would already be a breach of the <br>
> licence if the geopoints were generated via Google, I think, so maybe <br>
> they can be imported?<br>
<br>
I don't think this would breach the OSM licence, as the database rights <br>
are claimed on the database, not on renderings. One is certainly <br>
allowed to do on the fly combined renderings, although I guess stored <br>
renderings might be different.<br>
<br>
It might be a breach of the Google licence, of course.<br>
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