<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I’m interested in adding missing rock-climbing cliffs here in Snowdonia. There are lots 🙂<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mostly obscure little ones, that can be quite a challenge to find when walking to visit for the first time due to bracken, no real path, etc.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Just checking … should the line of the cliff be at the top of the edge of the cliff, or at the bottom where rock-climbers naturally want to be setting up kit, etc.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As a climber, the need is to know where to walk to, best place for setting-up, etc. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As an OSM mapper, maybe the issue is ‘where is the crag edge?’ ie the dangerous bit for walkers, general public, etc. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Most existing crags seem to be mapped somewhere in ’the middle’ of the cliff, as a line of nodes, or the actual top edge. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One ‘best practice’ might be to map the top edge of the actual cliff, and survey the path to where climbers mostly go to park their rucksacks, etc</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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