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<div>If we are mentioning situation abroad:<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">in Poland both tracks and platforms have own codes.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Aug 28, 2022, 14:28 by colin.smale@xs4all.nl:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Just my $0.02 - In many countries (e.g. Germany and the Netherlands) the paradigm is to label the *tracks*, and not the *platforms*. A subtle difference, but it might be relevant here. Long "platforms" that have space for two (short) trains behind each other, with appropriate crossovers half way along, would be numbered for example "12A" and "12B". If there is a track without a platform, for through trains or for "shunting" type activities, it still gets a number, even though it is never displayed for passengers.<br></div><blockquote><div>On 28/08/2022 12:38 Tony Shield <tonyosm9@gmail.com> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><div>Hi Dave<br></div><div><br></div><div>You are probably fully aware of platforms 3A, 3B which can be same <br></div><div>platforms with subdivisions, or separate platforms, eg Preston 3C is a <br></div><div>separate physical platform to 3.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Some physical platforms are divided into two eg Gloucester has ref:1/2, <br></div><div>with 1 being the southeastern end and 2 the north western end, don't <br></div><div>know where the join is but confuses the heck out of mere passengers like <br></div><div>me. Bristol has a similar arrangement with some platforms e.g. 7 & 8- <br></div><div>Bristol appears to be mapped with correct platform physical distinctions <br></div><div>and refs.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Tony<br></div><div><br></div><div>On 27/08/2022 21:41, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:<br></div><div>> Hi<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> In my endeavour to maintain the correct number of railways stations & <br></div><div>> improve the rail network I've noticed that due to the linear nature of <br></div><div>> platforms mapped as polygons, the labels often fail to render, and if <br></div><div>> the do, will occasionally obscure other objects. I plan to amend their <br></div><div>> name tags to improve the situation.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> First off, I don't think railway platforms have genuine 'names', such <br></div><div>> as 'The Casey Jones memorial platform', but the major renderers render <br></div><div>> that tag atm, so it's the one I plan to change. If you know of any <br></div><div>> with genuine names, please let me know.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> There is a discussion on OSM-Carto's github to change the rendering <br></div><div>> from name to ref, but, as usual, the speed of the discussion is glacial.<br></div><div>> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3271<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> Ideally I think the only label which should be rendered is the <br></div><div>> reference number/letter, however I'm aware there are some caveats to <br></div><div>> that, which is why I'm posting here.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> Amendments I'm planning to make:<br></div><div>> Remove 'Platform' from those named 'Platform X'. In OSM we don't <br></div><div>> explicitly self describe objects.<br></div><div>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Names_are_not_for_descriptions<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> Remove station names. They're already rendered in the railway=station <br></div><div>> object.<br></div><div>> Remove track/line names.<br></div><div>> Remove name's of line operators<br></div><div>> Tidy up any multiple numbers so they're all in the format of '1;2' etc.<br></div><div>> Copy all that are just numbers/letter to 'ref' tags if they don't <br></div><div>> already exist.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> The longest name is "Great Portland Street - Circle, Metropolitan, <br></div><div>> Hammersmith & City Line - Eastbound - Platform 1" which is just <br></div><div>> ridiculous, IMO.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> However it leads on to some questions:<br></div><div>> Are all London underground platforms signed as 'Eastbound, Northbound' <br></div><div>> etc?<br></div><div>> Do Manchester trams have ref numbers. Currently they're all tagged <br></div><div>> with the station name only?<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> I plan of performing this in a few steps using various Overpass <br></div><div>> routines to filter out each configuration of name. I'll probably start <br></div><div>> with 'Platform X' format as it's the lowest hanging fruit.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> On topic comments & suggestions welcome.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> DaveF<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> _______________________________________________<br></div><div>> Talk-GB mailing list<br></div><div>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb<br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Talk-GB mailing list<br></div><div>Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Talk-GB mailing list<br></div><div>Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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