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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/12/2022 21:45, Edward Catmur via
Talk-GB wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Seems fine to me. Routers are going to have to
handle this style for town and city centres, so why shouldn't it
be used in residential areas?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 at 22:02,
Jon Pennycook via Talk-GB <<a
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the Elsea Park area of Bourne in Lincolnshire, I can see
pavements (footways/sidewalks) mapped twice - once as
highway=footway and again as highway=pedestrian, and
these (the ways on the map) are not reliably linked to
mapped roads in a useful way. These are simple ordinary
pavements (i.e. separated from the road only by kerbs
and with crossings in obvious places). I think the
overlay of the pedestrian areas is overkill - what do
other people think? I can see the possibility for
router confusion (e.g. if a router tries to start a
journey on the pedestrian area rather than the footway).</span></div>
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left some notes through StreetComplete suggesting the
double-mapping was unnecessary, but they were closed by
the original mapper.</div>
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can now see these extend beyond Elsea Park, e.g.</div>
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<p>Searching for highway=pedestrian there gives e.g.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1poi">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1poi</a> .</p>
<p>I think that's a mistagging. I'd suggest that
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1037350081">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1037350081</a> was not a
highway=pedestrian at all, but actually area:highway=footway.</p>
<p>Imagery is limited, but it looks to me like it'd be perfectly
possible to get from <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9360288327">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9360288327</a>
to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9556145165">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9556145165</a> by stepping over
a kerb.</p>
<p>With regard to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1014562278">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1014562278</a> ,
Personally, I'd tend not to map "ordinary roadside sidewalks" like
that, but some people do and it's perfectly acceptable, provided
that all the joining parts are there (which as you mention,
they're not yet).</p>
<p>Looking at changeset discussions
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=13750939">https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=13750939</a>
, it does look like they reply at least sometimes, so I'd probably
start there.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy<br>
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