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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Mark Goodge <mark@good-stuff.co.uk><br>

<b>Sent:</b> 03 January 2023 14:35<br>

<b>To:</b> talk-gb@openstreetmap.org <talk-gb@openstreetmap.org><br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of private parking in gardens</font>

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On 03/01/2023 11:09, Donald Noble wrote:<br>

> Hi,<br>

><br>

> There are a couple of private gardens in Edinburgh which are paved over<br>

> and used for parking. These are mapped as parking=surface, one of<br>

> which is also tagged access=private. Notes have been added questioning<br>

> if this is the best tagging</div>

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> Without wishing to remove detail, it is actually a private<br>

> parking space, I'm just wondering if there is a better way to represent<br>

> this without it appearing like a bigger carpark?<br>

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My personal opinion, FWIW, is that we shouldn't map parking spaces that<br>

are merely the forecourt or back yard of an individual private<br>

residential dwelling. Otherwise, if done consistently it's going to make<br>

the average suburban street look incredibly cluttered - most of the<br>

common renders will be littered with densely packed Ps all over the<br>

place in urban areas, and, while we don't map for the render, that kind<br>

of tag is pretty useless for data consumers as well. It's also<br>

meaningless for most residential properties, because, although parking<br>

may well be the most common use, almost all residential curtilages are<br>

multi-purpose.<br>

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I think it is useful, though, to map shared parking in residential areas<br>

(eg, parking for an apartment block), and also parking within the<br>

curtilage of a commercial property. In these cases, though, it does need<br>

to be tagged as private.<br>

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Mark<br>

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