<div dir="ltr"><div>I wouldn't exclude the possibility that most of these are instances of <a href="https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=276">nerdview</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't know how many of these are Reach publications, but in many cases the journalists won't be local and <br></div><div>will have little other choice but to lightly regurgitate a press release (tech journalists on many weeklies did this <br></div><div>back in the 1980s, even if they phoned for a quote). The chances of the PR using insiders argot is rather high.</div><div><br></div><div>I've always been a little concerned that even very well known roundabout names which aren't signposted are more loc_name</div><div>than name (one's local to me Bardills, Priory, QMC, Nottingham Knight, Wheatcrofts and Crown Islands/roundabouts). They are certainly</div><div>heavily used locally, but would someone from elsewhere be aware of what they referred to? Some, such as <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/410294608">Crown Island</a> were originally part of <br></div><div>a named road (Wollaton Road) as well, and the approach used for <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/288176853">MItcham's Corner</a> may be more appropriate (as for the original J29 issue).<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 at 16:27, Ed Loach <<a href="mailto:edloach@gmail.com">edloach@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Andy wrote (re Heath Interchange):<br>
<br>
> Derbyshire Times<br>
> "The A617 at M1 Junction 29 Heath Interchange is currently closed<br>
> and traffic queueing."<br>
><br>
<a href="https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/transport/disruption-expected-for-derbyshire-drivers-this-morning-after-busy-a-road-closed-360291" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/transport/disruption-expected<br>
-for-derbyshire-drivers-this-morning-after-busy-a-road-closed-360291</a><br>
5<br>
> <br>
> Derby Telegraph:<br>
> "Heath Interchange, junction 29 of the M1 - six accidents, nine<br>
> casualties, 12 vehicles involved."<br>
><br>
<a href="https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/most-dangerous-junctions-derbyshire-revealed-3867705" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/most-dangerous-junc<br>
tions-derbyshire-revealed-3867705</a><br>
> <br>
> Leicester Mercury<br>
> "took them from J29, the Heath Interchange, of the M1 all the way<br>
> to J23 for Shepshed "<br>
><br>
<a href="https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/police-pursuit-ended-boxing-manoeuvre-4441775" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/police-pursuit-en<br>
ded-boxing-manoeuvre-4441775</a><br>
> <br>
> A number of commercial organisations also refer to the junction by<br>
> that name, for example:<br>
> <br>
> Premier Inn<br>
> "At Heath Interchange, take the second exit onto A617"<br>
><br>
<a href="https://www.premierinn.com/gb/en/hotels/england/derbyshire/chesterfield/chesterfield-town-centre.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.premierinn.com/gb/en/hotels/england/derbyshire/chesterfi<br>
eld/chesterfield-town-centre.html</a><br>
> <br>
> More can be found by searching Google, thus:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
><br>
<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=</a>"Heath+Interchange"++junction+29+M1<br>
<br>
Ah, but how many pre-date the Sabre edit?<br>
<a href="https://xkcd.com/978/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://xkcd.com/978/</a><br>
<br>
Ed<br>
<br>
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