<div dir="auto">In my example it wasn't even bike parking attached to buildings, it was speed humps!</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 6 Jan 2023, 13:21 Robert Skedgell, <<a href="mailto:rob@hubris.org.uk">rob@hubris.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I've added an issue to the git repository about conflated nodes being <br>
attached to buildings. Apart from wall-mounted cycle parking, I can't <br>
thing of any other circumstances in which this would be correct.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://github.com/cyclestreets/tflcid-conversion/issues/48" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/cyclestreets/tflcid-conversion/issues/48</a><br>
<br>
On 06/01/2023 10:40, Ken Kilfedder wrote:<br>
> For completeness - I commented on this cs too, but have no response as yet.<br>
> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130428687" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130428687</a> <br>
> <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130428687" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130428687</a>><br>
> <br>
> ---<br>
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> <a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a>><br>
> <br>
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023, at 10:30 AM, Steven Hirschorn wrote:<br>
>> Here's my changeset comment, along with an explanation of the <br>
>> circumstances that may have contributed (I realigned roads and <br>
>> buildings with the Cadastral layer a few days earlier and wonder if <br>
>> the CID import is working on cached data?)<br>
>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130291657" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130291657</a> <br>
>> <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130291657" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130291657</a>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 10:25, Steven Hirschorn <br>
>> <<a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I've also commented on a changeset that merged speedhumps into<br>
>> building outlines and introduced kinks in roads. See this one, for<br>
>> example:<br>
>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130253893#map=15/51.4972/-0.2896" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130253893#map=15/51.4972/-0.2896</a> <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130253893#map=15/51.4972/-0.2896" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130253893#map=15/51.4972/-0.2896</a>><br>
>> (I actually put the comment on a different nearby TfL CID<br>
>> changeset accidentally, but then linked to this one in a comment)<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 10:11, Ken Kilfedder<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Could I please appeal for the TFL Cycle Infrastructure edits<br>
>> to be paused or halted? There have been some problems in the<br>
>> Beckon / Plaistow area, with duplicated or misplaced speed<br>
>> bumps. I've fixed a few by hand, but it would be best if<br>
>> those responsible had another look at their process.<br>
>><br>
>> See this node for example -<br>
>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561565" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561565</a><br>
>> <<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561565" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561565</a>> . The<br>
>> streets in the area are now all very zig-zagged, and this is<br>
>> incorrect.<br>
>><br>
>> Zoom in here to see the general pattern -<br>
>> <a href="https://osmcha.org/changesets/130428777/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://osmcha.org/changesets/130428777/</a><br>
>> <<a href="https://osmcha.org/changesets/130428777/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://osmcha.org/changesets/130428777/</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ---<br>
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>> <<a href="https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain</a>><br>
>> <a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, 7 Dec 2022, at 5:48 PM, Aidan Mcinerney via Talk-GB wrote:<br>
>> > Steven - sorry!<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: Aidan Mcinerney via Talk-GB <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>>><br>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 5:43 PM<br>
>> > To: Steven Hirschorn <<a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> > Cc: <a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>>><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] TfL Cycle Infrastructure Database<br>
>> (CID) conflation<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi Stephen - Thank you for the encouragement and input<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Very much take your point about the size of the humps<br>
>> changeset needing<br>
>> > to be manageable. It feels like there's a balance we need to<br>
>> find with<br>
>> > the size of each changeset vs the number assets we're aiming<br>
>> to bring<br>
>> > in - around 26k humps. The position we reached was to<br>
>> restrict each<br>
>> > changeset to a max of 350 and kept in a fairly tightly<br>
>> constrained<br>
>> > zone. It sounds like reducing this max size is advisable.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > You'll now see that the humps changeset has been reverted.<br>
>> Another user<br>
>> > (BCNorwich - thank you!) pointed out our method had caused<br>
>> duplication<br>
>> > in instances where we have attempted to revise tags on<br>
>> existing assets,<br>
>> > so we've reverted this changeset entirely to avoid disruption.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We'll regroup quickly to revise this method and post again<br>
>> to here and<br>
>> > the Wiki tomorrow.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Many thanks,<br>
>> > Aidan<br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: Steven Hirschorn <<a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 10:59 PM<br>
>> > To: Aidan Mcinerney <<a href="mailto:Aidan.Mcinerney@ghd.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Aidan.Mcinerney@ghd.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Aidan.Mcinerney@ghd.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Aidan.Mcinerney@ghd.com</a>>><br>
>> > Cc: <a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>>><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] TfL Cycle Infrastructure Database<br>
>> (CID) conflation<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > You don't often get email from <a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:steven.hirschorn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">steven.hirschorn@gmail.com</a>>. Learn why<br>
>> > this is important<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi Aidan,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks for your efforts, I think it'll be a great addition.<br>
>> I've looked<br>
>> > at a sample of the bike parking and haven't found any issues<br>
>> - neither<br>
>> > false positives or inaccurate positions. I didn't look for<br>
>> any modified<br>
>> > existing nodes. I've noticed that it isn't exhaustive (the<br>
>> first few<br>
>> > nodes in the changeset were of Golden Square but there are some<br>
>> > post_hoops missing), but doesn't claim to be.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > With the traffic calming measures, I found an example of<br>
>> cushions<br>
>> > listed as a hump - I don't know if that's a problem in the<br>
>> original<br>
>> > source data, or maybe it's changed since the survey or since<br>
>> the aerial<br>
>> > view on Bing was recorded? I still feel like the distinction<br>
>> isn't that<br>
>> > important and that it's useful to know that there's some<br>
>> kind of<br>
>> > traffic calming there even if the type is incorrect.<br>
>> ><br>
>> <a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fnode%2F10242246942&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XBLqHNeM9ODbIbroFx947%2BOi%2FyYzZmY6pzH2XOWCzKc%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fnode%2F10242246942&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XBLqHNeM9ODbIbroFx947%2BOi%2FyYzZmY6pzH2XOWCzKc%3D&reserved=0</a> <<a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fnode%2F10242246942&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XBLqHNeM9ODbIbroFx947%2BOi%2FyYzZmY6pzH2XOWCzKc%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fnode%2F10242246942&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XBLqHNeM9ODbIbroFx947%2BOi%2FyYzZmY6pzH2XOWCzKc%3D&reserved=0</a>><br>
>> ><br>
>> > I'm finding the bigger changeset difficult to analyse as<br>
>> JOSM doesn't<br>
>> > make it obvious what has changed, and it's too big to open<br>
>> in osmcha<br>
>> > (and there's 18 pages of updates to look at via the<br>
>> <a href="http://openstreetmap.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">openstreetmap.org</a> <<a href="http://openstreetmap.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
>> > representation!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Steven<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 12:41, Aidan Mcinerney via Talk-GB<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> > Hello,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > As discussed, we have now imported two example changesets<br>
>> for review<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - 44 cycle parking assets from TfL CID inside London ward(s)<br>
>> St.<br>
>> > James's,West End #tflcid<br>
>> ><br>
>> <a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780786&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=E23%2Frw4vKSg0z7FjAQPf2jLELFrnKP62tuxw%2BVn0I80%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780786&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=E23%2Frw4vKSg0z7FjAQPf2jLELFrnKP62tuxw%2BVn0I80%3D&reserved=0</a> <<a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780786&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=E23%2Frw4vKSg0z7FjAQPf2jLELFrnKP62tuxw%2BVn0I80%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780786&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=E23%2Frw4vKSg0z7FjAQPf2jLELFrnKP62tuxw%2BVn0I80%3D&reserved=0</a>><br>
>> ><br>
>> > - 350 traffic calming assets (humps/cushions) of TfL CID<br>
>> within London<br>
>> > borough Barking and Dagenham #tflcid<br>
>> ><br>
>> <a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780689%23map%3D12%2F51.5530%2F0.1279&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=bBw1oGo312cOGlUG%2FpJ49awq5v6HcfgPEoWuE%2BG%2BrLM%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780689%23map%3D12%2F51.5530%2F0.1279&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=bBw1oGo312cOGlUG%2FpJ49awq5v6HcfgPEoWuE%2BG%2BrLM%3D&reserved=0</a> <<a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780689%23map%3D12%2F51.5530%2F0.1279&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=bBw1oGo312cOGlUG%2FpJ49awq5v6HcfgPEoWuE%2BG%2BrLM%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fchangeset%2F129780689%23map%3D12%2F51.5530%2F0.1279&data=05%7C01%7Caidan.mcinerney%40ghd.com%7Ce18bf02137824a1d1a0408dad87aee08%7C5e4e864c3b824180a5155c8fb718fff8%7C0%7C0%7C638060319833070384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=bBw1oGo312cOGlUG%2FpJ49awq5v6HcfgPEoWuE%2BG%2BrLM%3D&reserved=0</a>><br>
>> ><br>
>> > This is aligned to the method proposed, but we would be<br>
>> grateful if you<br>
>> > are able to advise if there is anything unexpected. All<br>
>> being well, we<br>
>> > would look to add a few more changesets for these two assets<br>
>> in 7 days.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Many thanks,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Aidan, Lu, Ed<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: Aidan Mcinerney via Talk-GB <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>>><br>
>> > Date: Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 11:03<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">talk-gb@openstreetmap.org</a>>><br>
>> > Subject: [Talk-GB] TfL Cycle Infrastructure Database (CID)<br>
>> conflation<br>
>> > Hello<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Following very helpful feedback earlier in the year, we are<br>
>> now looking<br>
>> > to recommence efforts to complete the migration of the TfL<br>
>> CID to OSM<br>
>> ><br>
>> > In the intervening months, we have been assisted by<br>
>> CycleStreets in<br>
>> > closing out identified issues with the conversion scripts -<br>
>> ><br>
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>> ><br>
>> > We have reviewed and modified the import process to avoid<br>
>> > editing/importing using out of date info.<br>
>> > The details of this modification for two initial assets<br>
>> (parking and<br>
>> > speed bumps) are outlined here -<br>
>> ><br>
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>> ><br>
>> > Hopefuly this is all clear – but please ask questions if<br>
>> not. Should<br>
>> > the community consensus be to proceed with this approach, we<br>
>> propose<br>
>> > importing both assets for a single ward next week, allow<br>
>> time (a week?)<br>
>> > for review, before ramping up to a few more wards the<br>
>> following week.<br>
>> > We’re happy to be guided by the pace that community members<br>
>> feel<br>
>> > appropriate as we go.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We’re very grateful to receive your questions and comments!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Lu (GHD), Ed (Sweco) and Aidan (GHD)<br>
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>> > GHD Livigunn Limited (05661240); Movement Strategies Limited<br>
>> > (04925854); Birkett Stevens Colman Partnership Limited<br>
>> (02585136);<br>
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>> Livingston Gunn<br>
>> > Projects Limited (02399356), all of which have their<br>
>> registered offices<br>
>> > at: Level 1, Building 49, Thornton Science Park, Pool Lane,<br>
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