<div dir="auto">Out of curiosity, Ken, were the affected roads realigned in the days before the TfL changes were applied?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 19 Jan 2023, 10:41 Ken Kilfedder, <<a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Have a look at the alignment of :<br>
* <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282554742" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282554742</a><br>
* <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561555" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561555</a><br>
* <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561767" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561767</a><br>
* <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561651" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282561651</a> (on Henniker Gardns, which has previously been mentioned)<br>
* <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282506906" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10282506906</a><br>
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I've found these by eyeballing the area on <a href="http://osm.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">osm.org</a>, and looking for crooked roads. In every case there is a ref:GB:tflcid node in each incorrect bend. <br>
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I have not carried out any checks in other areas, or carried out any sophisticated searches looking for new ref:GB:tflcid nodes that coincide with bends. So the above list is probably non-exhaustive.<br>
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2023, at 10:16 AM, Aidan Mcinerney wrote:<br>
> Hi Ken<br>
><br>
> apologies - we've endeavored to tidy up all the instances we could see. <br>
> could you please give a couple of examples?<br>
><br>
> Many thanks,<br>
> Aidan<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: Ken Kilfedder <<a href="mailto:spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk</a>><br>
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 9:57 AM<br>
> To: Whittaker, Ed <<a href="mailto:ed.whittaker@sweco.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ed.whittaker@sweco.co.uk</a>>; Dave F via Talk-GB <br>
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> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] TfL Cycle Infrastructure Database (CID) <br>
> conflation<br>
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> Any update on this? I can see some of the wobbly roads have been <br>
> fixed - though not all.<br>
><br>
> Have you done all you can? E.g. does it now fall to local mappers to <br>
> find and fix the problems? Or does Sweco still plan to do it?<br>
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> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023, at 3:03 PM, Whittaker, Ed via Talk-GB wrote:<br>
>> Hi Ken,<br>
>><br>
>> I agree, it does not look very good at present... I'll need to chat<br>
>> with the person who did that area when they are back Monday next week<br>
>> though it initially appears that they had not updated their locally<br>
>> cached OSM data in JOSM whilst nearby roads had been re-aligned and<br>
>> speed bumps added in the preceding week (some internal process issues<br>
>> for us to pick up on there). I've picked some random sample changesets<br>
>> and so far it appears an issue restricted to this area. I think the<br>
>> easiest way is for us to identify the area and systematically work<br>
>> around it, removing any conflated CID speed bumps where existing bumps<br>
>> already exist and moving any remaining CID bumps in line with the<br>
>> update centreline.<br>
>><br>
>> Kind regards<br>
>><br>
>> Ed Whittaker<br>
>> Principal Transport Planner<br>
>> Sweco<br>
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