<div dir="ltr"><div>This whole thing highlights that there is a huge range of student accommodation for which the building=dormitory tag is inadequate.</div><div><br></div><div>At present we have the following obvious types of PBSA (purpose-built student accommodation):</div><div><br></div><div>* Traditional halls of residence incorporating study bedrooms & a range of other facilities. Often built to high standards and situated in parkland. <br></div><div>* Collegiate academic buildings, mixing study-bedrooms with service, academic & leisure facilities. Not just Oxbridge, but also Lancaster, York and UKC at Canterbury. <br></div><div>* Some long-standing London halls of residence which more conform to the dormitory idea. Large blocks of study bedrooms with few on-site facilities, and no outdoor ones. (Max Rayne, UCL?)<br></div><div>* Large complexes of student flats (a few on campus), but mainly off-campus, often described as "student villages". Some date from th e '70s (Broadgate at Nottingham, Lafrowda at Exeter). Seem to have gone out of favour in recent years. Most are flats shared between a number of students with a common kitchen. I have used landuse=residential with residential=student_vilage for these. They are usually gated and hard to survey and may house several thousand students. There are at least 6 in Nottingham.</div><div></div><div>* Purpose built blocks of student flats: often with spaces bigger than study bedrooms. I use building=apartments for these, but these are built to lower standards than regular flats, so some kind of sub-tag is needed. These range from monolithic monsters of 700 bedrooms to small infill blocks, with a much smaller number. . The former seem to be built instead of student villages these days.<br></div><div>* A few universities, largely agricultural schools and remote campuses did offer "hostels" which are they things I see as most conforming to the building=dormitory tag, but I think most of these have gone, as they were a bit too bleak for the modern student. Nurses' homes have also more-or-less disappeared from hospital sites (there was a tower block at the Hull RI). Former teacher training colleges probably had a fair bit of this sort of student housing too, particularly the more rural ones, but these are now either campus universities or have disappeared.</div><div><br></div><div>In addition there's lots of different kinds of buildings converted to large scale student apartments:</div><div><br></div><div>
* Converted office blocks in town centres (Not quite PBSA). Very common in Nottingham, I think, including one of Andy's former offices.<br></div><div>* Industrial buildings (old mills, maltings etc).</div><div><br></div><div>There is also the issue of adding residential landuse around on campus halls, which I think gives a rather misleading slant to the landscape and actual landuse as</div><div> typically these are multi-purpose buildings often in parkland. They rarely reflect typical things one might infer about landuse=residential: surface sealing, <br></div><div>car parking, demand for utilities and services, etc. At the very least this needs some kind of subtagging.</div><div><br></div><div>Adapted buildings are common elsewhere in the world: lots of students live in old buildings in the centre of Caceres, Spain. I'm also not sure how folk in the US tag frat houses.</div><div><br></div><div>Current terminology of PBSA is a bit unwieldy as an OSM tag, but it is more accurate. Perhaps useful to subtag things.</div><div><br></div><div>Jerry</div><div><br></div><div>PS. Most of my current ground-survey mapping is tracking PBSA construction<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 09:46, Nathan Case <<a href="mailto:nathancase@outlook.com">nathancase@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Another tagging scheme for university halls of residence I've seen (and <br>
used) is ``building=residential + residential=university``.<br>
<br>
I do like this approach as the building value should describe the <br>
building type rather than its use. Though perhaps halls of residence do <br>
differ from normal apartments as they generally share a communal kitchen <br>
(and sometimes communal bathrooms).<br>
<br>
Agree this should have all been discussed more widely before large scale <br>
changes were made to existing tags.<br>
<br>
On 06/02/2023 23:25, David Woolley wrote:<br>
> On 06/02/2023 21:38, nathuary via Talk-GB wrote:<br>
>> They were likely just following the suggestion of the <br>
>> building=dormitory page, which suggests building=hall_of_residence as <br>
>> a possible tagging mistake since this <br>
>> revisionhttps://<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:building%3Ddormitory&oldid=2427402" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:building%3Ddormitory&oldid=2427402</a>.<br>
><br>
> This also seems to suggest changing amenity to building, when I <br>
> thought these were intended to be orthogonal.<br>
><br>
> Actually, thinking about, it some of the privately run UK student <br>
> accommodation might be better described as building=apartments!<br>
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