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<p>I will refrain from using a relation but MY GOSH is that wall of
text hard to read. I might take some time to bring some structure
into that page. Thanks for pointing that out (even if it wasn't
your intention :-))<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06.02.2024 12:42, Mateusz Konieczny
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<div>That sounds like case of<br>
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<div>Feb 6, 2024, 12:40 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pmberry2007@gmail.com">pmberry2007@gmail.com</a>:<br>
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<div>Hi,<br>
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<div>Whichever way you end up tagging them, it would be useful
to collect them together under a simple site relation. That
way they can easily be found and you may be able to move
general tagging to the relation level instead of
duplicating it at the member level.<br>
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<div>Regards,<br>
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<div><i>Paul</i><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 11:20, Kai
Michael Poppe <<a target="_blank"
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<div>Hi all,<br>
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<div> by chance I stumbled upon Roblondon's video [1] about
the thirteen <br>
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<div> remaining cabmen's shelters in London that all have
been Grade II listed <br>
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<div> - some of them are in use as kiosks or cafe, some seem
not to be open <br>
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<div> anymore, yet they remain under the supervision of the
Cabmen's Shelter <br>
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<div> Fund [2].<br>
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<div> Due to highly inconsistent tagging, it wasn't easy to
find them in OSM, <br>
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<div> but alas, here they are: [3]<br>
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<div> I'd love to make the tagging more consistent, so a few
points I'd like <br>
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<div> to discuss:<br>
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<div> * If I understand the building-tag correctly (tagging
what the building <br>
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<div> was initially designed to be, regardless of it's
current use), <br>
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<div> building=shelter should be superior to retail, kiosk,
hut or yes <br>
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<div> *shudders* - correct?<br>
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<div> * There are 2 cafés that are mapped as nodes on top of
buildings and 3 <br>
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<div> as amenity=cafe (1 shop=kiosk) on the buildings' way.
Should this be <br>
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<div> changed (all seperate nodes or all tagging on the
ways)?<br>
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<div> * 8 shelters have a wikidata-tag, yet there are more
entries in WD that <br>
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<div> refer to these shelters, so I would need to figure the
missing ones out <br>
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<div> and add them. As far as I've seen, the NHLE Identifier
seems to exist in <br>
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<div> WD as well, linking to the correct entries. Is there
any point in adding <br>
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<div> them to OSM as ref:GB:nhle or would that be data
duplication we do not <br>
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<div> need? Likewise for listed_status=Grade II and
operator:heritage=Heritage <br>
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<div> England?<br>
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<div> Thoughts?<br>
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<div> K<br>
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<div> [1] <a href="https://youtu.be/Nsoxj9U71rQ"
rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://youtu.be/Nsoxj9U71rQ</a><br>
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<div> [2] <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabmen%27s_Shelter_Fund"
rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabmen%27s_Shelter_Fund</a><br>
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<div> [3] <a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1GYj"
rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1GYj</a><br>
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