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Sorry Margie,<br>
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Please forget about the acronyms.<br>
<br>
Make 2 lists (on 2 paper sheets)<br>
- what<br>
- how<br>
<br>
The items in the "what" list are products.<br>
<br>
The items in the "how" list are tasks, work.<br>
<br>
People, "who", are (later) linked to the task they work on.<br>
<br>
Ok so far ?<br>
<br>
You have taken care to write the items on the LHS of the page.<br>
<br>
When an item is too big to be handled at once, you split it, with lines
going towards the right of the page. In 2, 3 or more pieces, as
requested.<br>
<br>
Ok ?<br>
<br>
(You've just got yourself so called "breakdown structures")<br>
<br>
Now, a little trick to make it easier to keep track of the connection
between products and tasks : numbering.<br>
<br>
Let me take an example from the wiki / Mapping :<br>
<br>
"_What_" needs to be mapped<br>
<br>
Street names :<br>
- product 1 = street names<br>
<br>
- task 1 = enter street names in OSM<br>
<br>
Petit Goave :<br>
- product 2 = Petit Goave map<br>
<br>
- task 2 = mapping Petit Goave<br>
<br>
etc...<br>
<br>
OK so far ?<br>
<br>
Now splitting, to make the pieces more manageable :<br>
- product 11 = street names North of PaP<br>
- product 12 = street names South of PaP<br>
<br>
and also :<br>
- task 11 = finding street names North of PaP<br>
- task 12 = finding Street names South of PaP<br>
<br>
etc...<br>
<br>
Ok ? Well, that's about all there is to it. <br>
(them acronyms :)<br>
<br>
Then maybe :<br>
- product 21 = street names in Petit Goave<br>
- task 21 = finding street names in Petit Goave<br>
<br>
(it seems to me that this is better as 21 than 13, but another choice
can be make, depending eg. on how the work gets done.<br>
Eg, if a big index of all street names in Haiti were available, then
maybe 13 would be a better numbering for these than 21.<br>
Let's just get going and improve later if needed, as with the wiki.)<br>
<br>
<br>
I was going to forget, "Who". For example :<br>
- Georgia group 1 is going to work on task 11<br>
- Georgia group 2 is going to work on task 12<br>
- Washington group is going to work on task 2<br>
(just making this up completely at random of course, please do not
actually do this)<br>
<br>
And then, each group can _split_ the work within itself.<br>
<br>
<br>
Next, would you like a big whiteboard, that everybody can read and
write at the same time ?<br>
At the same time from Washington and from Georgia ?<br>
<br>
You can use a shared spreadsheet, a kind of Google Doc.<br>
<br>
If you go thru this little formalism, then, naturally, the senses of
direction will appear.<br>
<br>
If you don't, people will keep wasting time wondering : "where can I be
useful", instead of actually working.<br>
<br>
Organizers, Mikel, etc, are welcome to define the content of the lists,
and to coordinate on them, of course.<br>
<br>
The big organizer Mikel was calling for has not stepped forward yet.
Let's try to make the task more manageable by splitting it, too.<br>
<br>
Hoping this helps (and believing it really could)<br>
<br>
Jean-Guilhem<br>
<br>
Margie, for pixelated WMS images (or sometimes blank ones where they
should not be), right click on the WMS layer name, and choose Change
the resolution ("Changer la résolution" in French)<br>
<br>
<br>
Margie Roswell a écrit :
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<pre wrap="">Hmmm... the acronyms alone stopped me right there, before even getting
to the content (sorry!)
I'm just really seeking a to-do list of items
- that I can either handle, or learn to handle.
- where I can feel useful.
- that I could potentially train others to do, as well (such as
identifying tent areas, if I knew the best place to direct people)
I can get in and out of JOSM at this point (I'm still getting
super-pixelated WMS images, hoping to resolve that on Saturday). I'm
fully functional in potlatch, to the extent that potlatch is capable.
And, of course, I made the YouTube Video: "How to load a Haiti basemap
onto a Garmin GPS" video <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFxbfemJfBM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFxbfemJfBM</a>
But really need a sense of direction, now that that's done.
Thanks (very much!) to whomever's been filling in the boundaries, and
lat-longs at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources#WorldBank_Imagery">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources#WorldBank_Imagery</a>
Unfortunately, I missed tonight's CrisisCamp call, where I was hoping
to get a sense of direction.
Is there any overlap between this email list and the CrisisCamp folks?
And more specifically, will anyone on this list be at DC CrisisCamp on Friday?
Best Regards,
Margie
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jgc@arkemie.com"><jgc@arkemie.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Mikel,
Exactly. But no need to reinvent the wheel. There are proven techniques to
manage complex projects, such as this OSM/Haiti one.
(I was lucky enough to have an associate who teaches these techniques -
wrote several books about them).
Please read the parts about Product Breakdown Structure (PBS) and Work
Breakdown Structure (WBS) in the following article, for example (the other
BS are less relevant here, or in a relatively very simplified way)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://toostep.com/insight/article---break-down-structures---wbs-obs-rbs-pbs-cbs-an-ove">http://toostep.com/insight/article---break-down-structures---wbs-obs-rbs-pbs-cbs-an-ove</a>
Please, read
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047575.html">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047575.html</a>
and understand the example in the shared spreadsheet. (I discovered shared
spreadsheet while working on the hospitals list, it is very powerful).
I think that with this simple tool, you could send a rocket to the moon (and
with a team of OSMers, of course). :)
(in short, the spreadsheet is 2D, the wiki only 1D)
Any questions are welcome, of course.
Best regards,
Jean-Guilhem
Mikel Maron a écrit :
Yes, I think we also have a separate set of tasks specifically for tool
developers. Another for communication/coordination.
These as well need similar organizing to the mapping tasks. But as these are
distinct modes, groups, probably separately listed, and perhaps managed by
different folks.
My preference is to keep this all in the wiki for now, in one place. Problem
we have at the moment is too much, spread around too many places, without
clear organization.
== Mikel Maron ==
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mapkibera..org/">http://mapkibera..org/</a>
+254 (0) 724899738
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mikel@osmfoundation.org">mikel@osmfoundation.org</a>
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From: Jean-Guilhem Cailton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jgc@arkemie.com"><jgc@arkemie.com></a>
To: Mikel Maron <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com"><mikel_maron@yahoo.com></a>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-ht@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</a>
Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 1:27:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-ht] Need Help Managing Mapping Requests
Mikel,
Have you seen the shared Project Management spreadsheet ? :
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0An_LB2U4zHBzdFRNR3dGczQycnZUcTJ6S2JjZ1o2dGc&hl=en">http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0An_LB2U4zHBzdFRNR3dGczQycnZUcTJ6S2JjZ1o2dGc&hl=en</a>
Maybe, it could be used for "self-ticketing", given, for a good start for
mapping, a good example of "Mapping Breakdown Structure" :) ? Maybe both in
Product Breakdown Structure, and Work Breakdown Structure ? With "Who" (in
OBS) then taking charge of the work in the corresponding cells.
Register by typing your name in the cell. And split a cell, going down one
level in the hierarchy, when someone comes along to help. And insert lines
below when more people come to help. Fairly simple and flexible no ?
Jean-Guilhem
Mikel Maron a écrit :
All
We lack a single clear place where mappers can come to find what kind of
tasks are most urgently needed,
who else is working on these tasks, the status of the task, and who to
notify if something is completed.
Can someone stand up to take on the role of organizing and maintaining this?
Currently, elements of this are spread throughout the Haiti WikiProject
pages. Mea culpa, I contributed to this
state of affairs as well.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Mapping_Coordination#What_needs_to_be_mapped.3F">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Mapping_Coordination#What_needs_to_be_mapped.3F</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas#Mapping_Tasks">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas#Mapping_Tasks</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Mapping_Coordination#Requests_from_Responders">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Mapping_Coordination#Requests_from_Responders</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/News">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/News</a>
We really need someone to commit to organizing these pages into a single
clear space on the wiki, and monitoring how things progress.
If requests are found on crisismappers list, direct emails, or in analysis
of the map, they'd need to add that to the wiki.
Would be helpful to be in touch with organizers at various crisiscamps this
weekend, to coordinate work.
In this role, if this person became occupied with other work, they'd need to
let us know here on talk-ht so someone else could take over.
Essentially, this needs to work something like an informal ticketing system.
I believe this could be managed in the wiki
for the time being, and lessons from the crisis applied for better systems
in future responses.
How does this sound? Anyone ready to take on this role?
Mikel
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