Hi<br>
<br>just got back online, on the <br><br>1. Agree that tagging and rendering must be addressed separetly<br><br>2. I do not think that the tagging discussion should be hosted on the Mapping Coordination page and neither on a dedicated Hospital Page.<br>
There is already a page put up for this process of digging out from the MapFeatures any relevant key and
values to ensure a maximal reuse of OSM knowledge in meeting the Haiti
field mapping requirements on the <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags">Hum OSM Tag\ Hum Data Model</a> from the OSM Project Haiti wiki.<br>
see <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags</a><br>
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Background on the generation of this Hum Data Model<br>
<br>
Existing humanitarian data models (when available Transportation = <a href="http://www.unjlc.org/tools/UNSDI-T/UNSDIT_v2.0_Comprehensive_Structure_HTML.html">UN Spatial Data Infrastructure for Transport - UNSDIT</a>),
pre-modeling
field materials used in Haiti, dialogue with GIS
Coordinators of NGOs with GIS capacities deployed to the ground
(MapAction, iMMAP, IFRC) with GIS experts from WHO and in hum mapping
(Cj Hendrix and Jason Pickering) were used to put up this framework
together with constant interactions with Mikel Maron, Andrew Turner,
David Smith and Kate Chapman.<br>
Attributes and Values from the Hum Data Model are being inserted in the Hum Data Model wiki table with crosswalks
from the data model values to osm existing key and tags when existing
and proposed new key and tags when the field requirement is unmet.<br>
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Status: right now highway and Health facility are covered and finetuned.<br>
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Next: the span of Haiti mapping field requirements formalized in the Hum Data Model covers 4 areas: <br>
area 1= transportation: <br>
- highway<br>
- aerodromes<br>
- ports<br>
- bridges<br>
- obstacles<br>
- warehouses<br>
- fuel depot <br>
- fuel suppy point<br>
area 2 = Health Facility<br>
area 3 = Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs)<br>
area 4 = Humanitarian points of interest<br>
<br>The hum data model version 2.0 detailing those objects is downloadable at the <a href="http://brainoff.com/nchavent/HumanitarianDM_JOSM_HT10_HOT_2.0.mm.html">http://brainoff.com/nchavent/HumanitarianDM_JOSM_HT10_HOT_2.0.mm.html</a><br>
<br>A version 2.1 will be issued to address HFacs wording at the moment a mix between PAHO and the version 1.9 of the data model.<br><br>I suggest that this page remains the host resources for addressing tagging/ data modeling in support of OSM meeting the hum field mapping requirements. <br>
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Best<br>
N.<br><br>-- <br>Nicolas Chavent<br>Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti</a><br>Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:nicolas.chavent@gmail.com">nicolas.chavent@gmail.com</a><br>Skype: c_nicolas<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Karl Guggisberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch">karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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> I'm here. JGC already emailed. I told him to document the tagging
on the <br>
</div><pre><div class="im">> wiki page
> (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Mapping_Coordination" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Mapping_Coordination</a></div>)
> and then I could see about adding it to the Haiti map.
Any objection if we document it here <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals</a>?
We can link there from the Mapping coordination page. The reason is to have everything Haiti/OSM/Hospitalimport-related
on this wiki page.
> For example, someone asked me to add IDP camps, but I still don't see it
> documented, nor could I locate any actual IDP objects in the database,
> last time I looked.
For health facilities this is different. This XAPI query <a href="http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/*%5Bhealth_facility:paho_id=*%5D" title="http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/*%5Bhealth_facility:paho_id=*%5D" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/*[health_facility:paho_id=*]</a>
replies the current set of health facilities imported from the PAHO/WHO list. It will grow to ~ 1000 objects.
Documentation is here <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals</a>.
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Regards<br>
Karl<br>
<br>
Am 04.02.2010 15:50, schrieb Lennard:
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<pre>Karl Guggisberg wrote:
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<pre><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/582919072" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/582919072</a>. It's not rendered
yet on the "main map", but I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be
</pre>
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<pre>Because the "main map" can't render every object in the database, and
because nobody asked before.
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<pre>- doesn't look too scary, does it? Don't know whom to get in touch with,
though, perhaps we should ask on the dev-list.
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</blockquote>
<pre>You can tweak/commit the Osmarender stylesheet yourself, and for the
'Mapnik' map, you can open a ticket on OSM trac. Of course, you could
open a ticket for Osmarender too.
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<pre>This is a Haiti specific ontology and I think we should get them
rendered on the Haiti specific map: <a href="http://haiti.openstreetmap.nl/" target="_blank">http://haiti.openstreetmap.nl/</a>. As
framm suggested, lets get in touch with User:Ldp.
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<pre>I'm here. JGC already emailed. I told him to document the tagging on the
wiki page
(<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Mapping_Coordination" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Mapping_Coordination</a>)
and then I could see about adding it to the Haiti map.
For example, someone asked me to add IDP camps, but I still don't see it
documented, nor could I locate any actual IDP objects in the database,
last time I looked.
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</blockquote>
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