<br><br>Hi all-<br><br>Thanks David for your email and my apologies for not having introduced the topic with more details.<br><br>The crisis mappers "thread" initiated 2 days ago relate to harmonizing data on Internal Displaced Persons/ People (IDPs) camp sites trough some on-going or future data conflation work. <br>
<br>Mapping of IDPs camp sites (refugees camp/ informal camps) was one of the core mapping field requirement echoed to boht crisis mapping and talk since the very early days of the response. This requirement receives proper attention from OSM and from other groups operating remotely (efforts of UNOSAT and ITHACA in generating IDPs camps site extracts through their sat imagery analysis) or directly from the ground.<br>
In OSM, Kate Chapman and other, a week ago, invested some work on assessing the status of OSM (IDP) camps (data cleaning).<br><br>The crisis mapping thread indicates that the conditions for a collective effort leading to harmonization of the various IDPs camp sites is starting matching a clearly stated need by the Haiti government and likely to be managed by the humanitarian authority in charge of this humanitarin theme (International Office of Migration (IOM) which leads the CampCoordinationManagement / Shelter Cluster/ Non Food Item in Haiti).<br>
<br>This effort is likely to proceed along the same lines as the work on-going on Health Facility resulting for OSM into some guidance given by a data custodian (Pa-American Health Organization - PAHO) providing a Unified UID, a Master dataset and some mechanisms for geodata managagement allowing for data sharing between different groups in a coordinated manner. <br>
This tied to efforts in terms of proposing a set of tags to handle the Health Facility, in dicussion at the Humanitarian OSM Tags\ Humanitarian Data Model section in the OSM wiki-<br>URL<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model#Health_Facilities">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model#Health_Facilities</a><br>
<br>The aim of my email to crisis camp was to outline for the crisis mnapper the process at work for Health Facility as a way forward and to raise awareness within OSM about this initiative on IDPs for us to contribute our IDPs data and be prepared for repeating the process at work on Health Facility with a new humanitarian object of high importance for this crisis response.<br>
A set of tags to handle the IDPs camp is proposed for dicussion at the Humanitarian OSM Tags\ Humanitarian Data Model section in the OSM wiki. It has been established based on Shelter Cluster Materials used in Haiti by the NGO Map ACtion and through dialogue with MapAction experts. Any field materials coming from the email to crisis mappers and from on-the ground GISers working on this theme as well as the OSM values can be added to this object if relevant in regards to field needs on IDP and IDP custodian guidance.<br>
URL:<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model#Internally_Displaced_People_.28IDPs.29_camp_sites">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model#Internally_Displaced_People_.28IDPs.29_camp_sites</a><br>
<br>I guess that for now, we are on a wait and see position vis a vis the coordinating efforts on haiti. <br>To be prepared to react timely, a status on the IDPs object and some attention to the IDP object of the Humanitarian Data model and its translation into OSM tags can be of help <br>
<br>Apologies for this long email, I hope it somehow clarifies.<br><br>Best<br>N<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:52 AM, David Ellams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osmlists@dellams.fastmail.fm">osmlists@dellams.fastmail.fm</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi<br>
<br>
Firstly, I'd be really grateful if you could expand your abbreviations,<br>
unless they are already well known in the OSM community. Unlike Crisis<br>
Mappers, I suspect this list includes many "ordinary OSMers" (like me)<br>
who are not experienced in crisis mapping, and would just like to know<br>
where they can lend a hand, and complement the work of the more hardcore<br>
crisis mappers. Having Googled "IDP", it looks like the most likely<br>
meaning in this context is "Internally Displaced Person" (internal<br>
refugee).<br>
<br>
If that is the correct meaning, please could you clarify exactly how you<br>
are proposing OSM becomes involved in an IDP database. Are you simply<br>
proposing adding tags to allow such a database to be linked easily to<br>
OSM, or are you proposing actually adding details of IDPs to OSM? If it<br>
is the latter, I have some concerns, but I don't want to waste anyone's<br>
time articulating them, if this is not what you are proposing.<br>
<br>
Apologies to all if I am the only one who is not clear on what is being<br>
proposed.<br>
<br>
Best wishes<br>
<br>
David (davespod)<br>
<br>
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:42 +0000, <a href="mailto:talk-ht-request@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht-request@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
wrote:<br>
> Send Talk-ht mailing list submissions to<br>
> <a href="mailto:talk-ht@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
><br>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht</a><br>
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>
> <a href="mailto:talk-ht-request@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht-request@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
><br>
> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
> <a href="mailto:talk-ht-owner@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht-owner@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
><br>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
> than "Re: Contents of Talk-ht digest..."<br>
><br>
><br>
> Today's Topics:<br>
><br>
> 1. Re: [CrisisMappers] Important request from Gov of Haiti - IDP<br>
> database (nicolas chavent)<br>
><br>
><br>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
><br>
> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 23:42:52 +0100<br>
<div class="im">> From: nicolas chavent <<a href="mailto:nicolas.chavent@gmail.com">nicolas.chavent@gmail.com</a>><br>
</div>> Subject: Re: [Talk-ht] [CrisisMappers] Important request from Gov of<br>
> Haiti - IDP database<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:crisismappers@googlegroups.com">crisismappers@googlegroups.com</a><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:thomas.kemper@jrc.ec.europa.eu">thomas.kemper@jrc.ec.europa.eu</a>, <a href="mailto:david.hagan@sagehagan.com">david.hagan@sagehagan.com</a>,<br>
> <a href="mailto:alberto.lizzi@undp.org">alberto.lizzi@undp.org</a>, <a href="mailto:daniele.ehrlich@jrc.it">daniele.ehrlich@jrc.it</a>,<br>
> <a href="mailto:daniele.ehrlich@jrc.ec.europa.eu">daniele.ehrlich@jrc.ec.europa.eu</a>, <a href="mailto:Rashid.Kashif@wfp.org">Rashid.Kashif@wfp.org</a>, OSM-Haiti<br>
> <<a href="mailto:Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org">Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
> Message-ID:<br>
> <<a href="mailto:8f58b2ab1002061442q2da31516kec58e09be80ba16b@mail.gmail.com">8f58b2ab1002061442q2da31516kec58e09be80ba16b@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>
<div><div></div></div></blockquote><div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>-- <br></div></blockquote></div>Nicolas Chavent<br>
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti</a><br>Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70<br>Email: <a href="mailto:nicolas.chavent@gmail.com">nicolas.chavent@gmail.com</a><br>
Skype: c_nicolas<br><br>