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Hi,<br>
<br>
I've run a second import and cleaned up the issues we had with the
first one, see<br>
<a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas/RadioTvStations">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas/RadioTvStations</a><br>
or the OSM changeset <a
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3827369">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3827369</a><br>
<br>
@Sandra: let us know if new data is available. We now have the scripts
in place to replace outdated data in OSM very quickly.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Karl<br>
<br>
Am 08.02.2010 09:26, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi
Sandra,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">I think the wrong tagging is not a big problem for now<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">as telecommunication towers are (not yet) rendered.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">In the coming weeks we will update faulty names and tags<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">based on what we already know and what with the
information the
community will<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">provide us. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Gert
Gremmen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><img
id="Afbeelding_x0020_1"
src="cid:part1.06070002.00010305@googlemail.com" alt="Osm" height="50"
width="150"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Webdings; color: green;"
lang="EN-US">P</span><b><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: green;"
lang="EN-US"> Before printing, think about the environment.</span></b><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">Van:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Sandra
Sudhoff
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:s_sudhoff@cartong.org">mailto:s_sudhoff@cartong.org</a>] <br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> Monday, February 08, 2010 7:50 AM<br>
<b>Aan:</b> ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen<br>
<b>CC:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-ht@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> RE: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV
Stations
_ Helpneeded!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">Hi Gert,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">in fact, only the Points that say GPS by tower in the
notes are really tower locations, to be honest. The rest was geocoded
on
the studio addresses, which could have the tower on site; but we would
not
know.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">Many stations have similar addresses, this could be
linked to
the fact that several radios which programmatically are targeting
different
listener groups use the same facilities, but of course it is also
possible that
some have changed the name in the meantime and only one is still
existing. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">Regards</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">Sandra</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:g.gremmen@cetest.nl">mailto:g.gremmen@cetest.nl</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:s_sudhoff@cartong.org">s_sudhoff@cartong.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-ht@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV
Stations _
Helpneeded!</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Consider this carried out, 95% is actually imported, but
there
is room for <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Improvement, as both studios and towers are all labeled
“tower: communication” for the moment, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">a lot of accents got lost in the import. There are also a
few
doubles.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Gert<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">User : cetest<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">Van:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org">mailto:talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>] <b>Namens </b>Sandra
Sudhoff<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 4 februari 2010 16:49<br>
<b>Aan:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-ht@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Talk-ht] Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and
TV Stations
_ Helpneeded!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">Hi,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">to give more details, the data is hosted in Google
Spreadsheets and
the skin (+ link) can be downloaded from here: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cartong.org/Files_for_public_download/Radio%20Stations%20Haiti.kmz">http://www.cartong.org/Files_for_public_download/Radio%20Stations%20Haiti.kmz</a></span><span
style="color: black;" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">We are of course still updating; we mapped everything we
could get
hold of, but some of the stations are misplaced still and of course the
attributes (operational etc ) are updated as soon as we get news. The
list is
now around about 230 stations, I do not think it will get much bigger,
but we
already noticed that some stations we had initally in there, actually
ended up
being the same and had just name changed etc; so just to give you an
idea that
the data is still in flow.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">Let me know the best way how to feed the data to you, I
can export
as CSV, which will be static then, though, but it butchers up the
encoding when
I do that; unless anyone can give me a pointer how to avoid to do that?
Best of
course would be if there could be feeding from the kml.</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">Cheers</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"
lang="EN-US">Sandra</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> Mikel Maron [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com">mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sandra Sudhoff; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-ht@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Mapping Request: Mapping Radio and TV Stations _
Help needed!</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">We've gotten
confirmation from Sandra that we can import radio and tv station
locations into
OSM.<br>
Need to coordinate with Sandra to import the data, and keep it up to
date and
their db is updated.<br>
Can anyone stand up for this?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Mikel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">==
Mikel Maron ==<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mapkibera.org/"
target="_blank">http://mapkibera.org/</a><br>
+254 (0) 724899738<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mikel@osmfoundation.org">mikel@osmfoundation.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">----- Forwarded
Message ----<br>
<b>From:</b> Sandra Sudhoff <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:s_sudhoff@cartong.org"><s_sudhoff@cartong.org></a><br>
<b>To:</b> David Fawcett <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:david.fawcett@gmail.com"><david.fawcett@gmail.com></a>; Jeffrey
Ollie
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeff@ocjtech.us"><jeff@ocjtech.us></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch">karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch</a>; Mikel Maron
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com"><mikel_maron@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thu, February 4, 2010 10:37:41 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers]
Mapping Radio and TV
Stations _ Help needed!]]<br>
</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"><br>
Guys,<br>
<br>
IMS told me to go ahead and share the data, let me know what the best<br>
way is, especially as it is still in the process of being updated.<br>
We host it in Google Spreadsheet.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Sandra<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Sandra Sudhoff [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:s_sudhoff@cartong.org">s_sudhoff@cartong.org</a>]
<br>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:57 AM<br>
To: 'David Fawcett'; 'Jeffrey Ollie'<br>
Cc: '<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch">karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch</a>';
'Mikel
Maron'<br>
Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping Radio and TV<br>
Stations _ Help needed!]]<br>
<br>
<br>
Sorry guys, <br>
<br>
I have not forgotten about your request to integrate the data to OSM. I<br>
have re-send the request to autorise to Internews but have not received<br>
a response so far. However, as I have been informed by IMS, the<br>
organisation we compile the data for who are on the ground by now, there<br>
will be a meeting with the mappers + internews on the ground; therefore<br>
I hope I have a response soon.<br>
<br>
The good side of this, I have sent all questionable positions (many, as<br>
the Geocoding in the country side is not as advanced as in PaP) to IMS<br>
in the field and hope that while waiting for internews response we can<br>
clean up/adjust our positional errors. <br>
<br>
Thank you for your patience.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Sandra<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: David Fawcett [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:david.fawcett@gmail.com">david.fawcett@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:50 PM<br>
To: Jeffrey Ollie<br>
Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch">karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch</a>;
Sandra
Sudhoff; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping Radio and TV<br>
Stations _ Help needed!]]<br>
<br>
<br>
Towers are also present in many of the unclassified DMA maps too.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Jeffrey Ollie <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jeff@ocjtech.us">jeff@ocjtech.us</a>>
wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Karl Guggisberg <br>
> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch">karl.guggisberg@guggis.ch</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Be careful with this list, we don't have the OK to import it
into the<br>
<br>
>> OSM database yet. Sandra is currently investigating.<br>
><br>
> In the case of radio & TV stations, are we looking for the
locations <br>
> of the transmitters or the locations of the studios? Finding <br>
> transmitters isn't that hard for remote mappers if you have good <br>
> enough satellite imagery but finding the studios would be
difficult.<br>
><br>
> Also, in the future can we find a format that will be easier for <br>
> people that don't have Google Earth to use?<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Jeff Ollie<br>
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