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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I’m not
demographic specialist but I will try a little comment. The view of the author
of this post is interesting because sometimes simple calculations allow to point
critical point better than very long studies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Nevertheless, I think
that he miss completely the reality of Haiti when he writes “</span><span
lang=EN-US>in rural areas [there is] very few fields or roads or traces of
humanity? Haiti is a country with an incredibly high population density in rural
areas, even in the mountains. It’s one of the reason of the deforestation.
There is no place where you can walk more than a couple of minutes without seeing
anybody. This should be taken into account in the calculation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Vincent</span><span lang=EN-US
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org] <b>De
la part de</b> ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 8 février 2010 12:59<br>
<b>À :</b> OSM-Haiti<br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Talk-ht] Missing Millions in haiti ???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL>I found this at :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL><a
href="http://www.pool.org.au/text/peter_ravenscroft/the_elephant_that_is_not_in_the_room">http://www.pool.org.au/text/peter_ravenscroft/the_elephant_that_is_not_in_the_room</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>and thought this to be interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Any comment from demographic
specialists????<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US>Nine million people in Haiti? Pull the other leg, it has a
goat tied to it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US><a href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha%C3%AFti">http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha%C3%AFti</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US>About a million people are not getting food and water, by
Red Cross estimates, of the 3 million in the Port au Prince and nearby
quake-devastated region.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US>But the question is, where are the other 6 million
Haitians? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US>They appear to have not one radio station between them, and
from Google Earth, there are clearly no other large towns. And, there are very
few fields along the rivers. or anywhere. I may have this badly wrong, but it
seems possible this is the elephant that is not in the room. Maybe there are 2
million more people, in small cities and towns and in the rural areas. But
something like 4 million people seem to be missing. Not since the earthquake.
Before it. Maybe they live in Atlantis and have no email or radios. </span><span
lang=NL>Or relatives in the city. …….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL>Gert Gremmen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL>-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL><img border=0 width=150 height=50
id="Afbeelding_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.gif@01CAA968.50C34D70" alt=Osm><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:green'> Before printing, think about
the environment.</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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