In case you want to kick it old school, the URL to use in Potlatch for "best aerial" is <a href="http://hypercube.telascience.org/tiles/1.0.0/haiti-best-900913/!/!/!.jpg">http://hypercube.telascience.org/tiles/1.0.0/haiti-best-900913/!/!/!.jpg</a>, and you can view the 1:50K topo map along with other layers at <a href="http://haiticrisismap.org/">http://haiticrisismap.org/</a><div>
<br></div><div><a href="http://haiticrisismap.org/"></a>Brad<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:57 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:g.gremmen@cetest.nl">g.gremmen@cetest.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">There is a huge amount of stuff to map in rural areas.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Install java en download JOSM</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Install the WMS plug-in</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Choose a rural area
somewhere, not to big and download data</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">play around and study JOSM
for an hour or so, ask questions if you need to</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Install WMS layers “best
aerial” and TOPO 50K</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">JOSM may shift layers so as
to align them, to already avalaible data : the topo map below is less then 100
meter off however.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>7.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">compare and map rivers,
hamlets, roads (most tracks anyway) land slidings , important buildings
mountain peaks</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>8.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The tope map gives you a
wealth of names and places and mountains peaks to map</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>9.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The areal pictures show you
roads, buildings and rivers (depends on available resolution in your area)</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>10.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Study, compare and add
missing items</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>11.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Report the area you are
working on to this list (topo map reference lines ?) to avoid duplicates</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">WMS links for JOSM</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">best aerial : <a href="http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.map&layers=haiti-best&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&" target="_blank">http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.map&layers=haiti-best&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&</a></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">topomap 1:50K (all of Haiti)</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/home/ortelius/haiti/haiti.map&layers=haiti-tlm-50&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&" target="_blank">http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/home/ortelius/haiti/haiti.map&layers=haiti-tlm-50&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Well you also might map using the potlatch editor, but you won’t
have 2 layers to switch to,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">and while potlatch is easier to start with ….. JOSM will
do much better and accurate mapping,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">and has some features (like Q : make a building or area
square-angled) and add-node-on-the fly</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">You should see me mapping rivers / areas with that, that you
will miss very much.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Oh, do not forget to connect roads to roads, other wise a router
may never find them.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Loose roads are of no use .</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> Well, see for yourself.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Gert Gremmen</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green">P</span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:green"> Before printing, think about the environment.</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">Van:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ht-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>] <b>Namens </b>Karl Guggisberg<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> Friday, February 12, 2010 3:28 PM<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Jean-Guilhem Cailton<br>
<b>CC:</b> <a href="mailto:talk-ht@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Talk-ht] Onboarding new mappers</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi, <br>
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please don't try to import/merge Health Facilties manually. We have a plan to
import/merge v2 of the list later. This is rather not a task for people onboarding
to the Haiti Relief Effort, unless they have good scripting skills we would, of
course, be happy to benefit from. I'm currently cleaning up the Humanitarian
Data Model for Health Facilities, which has become the most mature part of the
HDM. I've also created mapping to the PAHO model, see <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model/MappingHdmPaho" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model/MappingHdmPaho</a>.<br>
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I feel that we soon reach a state where we can import v2 with a tag set which
can be claimed "fully compliant with HDM". <br>
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amenity=hospital is discurated for health facilites in general. HDM currently
assumes that three types of health facilites will be tagged with
amentiy=hospital ( @Jean-Guilhem Cailton: field hospitals too, this will solve
your issue) <br>
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There is a list of potential duplicates I've identified. PAHO and other
involded organisation are aware of them, Jean-Guilhem and Kate are liaising
with them. Lets wait for the next consolidated master list which, hopefully,
will include less duplicates. Besides OSM there are dozens of other
organisations working of data reconcilation regarding Health Facilities. We are
now at a state where it doesn't make sense to "deduplicate" in
the OSM database. It would be helpful, though, to *identify* duplicate Health
Facilities and flag them as such in OSM, see this link <br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals#How_to_deal_with_duplicate_entries" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals#How_to_deal_with_duplicate_entries</a><br>
for how to do that.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Karl <br>
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Am 12.02.2010 14:52, schrieb Jean-Guilhem Cailton: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A few suggestions:<br>
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- Help could be welcome to continue cleaning up the Haiti Health Facilities
(HHF) list. As described on<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals</a><br>
a master list is available on<br>
<a href="http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/</a><br>
Version 1 has been integrated into OSM (to the extent possible, due to
duplicates.)<br>
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Karl has prepared a .osm file containing version 2 (the last one currently
available, with tags modified as also described on <br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model</a><br>
and I think he is working on scripts to import this version 2. (Which still
contains many duplicates.)<br>
<br>
If you are interested, I could forward to you work spreadsheets from health
specialists, which could help bringing HHF in OSM to the equivalent of a
version 2.5, while awaiting for version 3 of the master list to be released.<br>
<br>
While dedicated tagging (particularly with health_facility:type=*) precisely
follows the HHF master list categories, I suggest using, in a ad-hoc fashion
for Haiti, "amenity=hospital" for the HHF in general (maybe
temporarily), so that they show, with a red cross and at zoom levels allowing a
sufficiently large area to be seen at once, on the map at <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">www.openstreetmap.org</a> that OSM
outsiders are most likely to consult first.<br>
<br>
<br>
- An important request from the government of Haiti requesting an IDP database
was transmitted to the CrisisMappers mailing list. IDP camps are available from
various sources (OCHA, UNOSAT, JRC, Chinese Academy of Sciences, OSM
contributors, etc...) It would certainly not hurt to have them reviewed, merged
and integrated in OSM.<br>
<br>
<br>
- Mapping the slums. See :<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas#Currently_for_Haiti_-_.22Now.22" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Tasks_and_Ideas#Currently_for_Haiti_-_.22Now.22</a><br>
<br>
<br>
I think this could keep quite a few volunteers usefully busy for a while. :)<br>
(and I still have other ideas, if needed.)<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Jean-Guilhem<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Mikel Maron a écrit : </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Anthony<br>
<br>
Thanks for checking in ... I'm not sure what's the most pressing need right now
.. can anyone suggest more tasks? Or are we reaching a plateau for now?<br>
<br>
-Mikel</span></p>
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Mikel Maron ==<br>
+254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br>
<a href="http://mapkibera.org/" target="_blank">http://mapkibera.org/</a><br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti</a>
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:talk-ht@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Fri, February 12, 2010 1:35:28 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Talk-ht] Onboarding new mappers</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I'm the
point person at Crisis Camp Chicago for onboarding vols to help with
mapping Haiti (though have no mapping experience). I've developed a 101
guide based on info I've sifted through on wiki pages. For fun, I
completed tutorials and attempted to practice so I could field questions from
vols. However, it is difficult for me to find items that are not mapped.
Seems like whatever I click on has been mapped and tagged. What am I missing?
Are people just responding quickly to documented tasks and getting it done?</span></p>
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