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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Certainly the west around the Dame Marie
& Jeremie areas, the topomap 1:50k layer is way out of alignment with any
other data source. Its seems OK in other areas I have looked
at.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Its Ok if you have really recognisable features
such as a coastline to re-align the topomap layer, but I fear inland that
much data may be traced by less experienced mappers which is simply in the wrong
place.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>David</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=g.gremmen@cetest.nl href="mailto:g.gremmen@cetest.nl">ce-test,
qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=talk-ht@openstreetmap.org
href="mailto:talk-ht@openstreetmap.org">talk-ht@openstreetmap.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 12, 2010 2:57
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Talk-ht] Onboarding new
mappers</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>There is a huge amount of stuff to map in rural
areas.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">1.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Install java en download JOSM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">2.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Install the WMS plug-in<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">3.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Choose a rural area somewhere, not to big and download
data<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">4.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>play around and study JOSM for an hour or so, ask questions if you
need to<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">5.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Install WMS layers “best aerial” and TOPO 50K<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">6.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>JOSM may shift layers so as to align them, to already avalaible
data : the topo map below is less then 100 meter off
however.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">7.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>compare and map rivers, hamlets, roads (most tracks anyway)
land slidings , important buildings mountain peaks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">8.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>The tope map gives you a wealth of names and places and
mountains peaks to map<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">9.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>The areal pictures show you roads, buildings and rivers (depends on
available resolution in your area)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">10.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Study, compare and add missing items<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">11.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Report the area you are working on to this list (topo map
reference lines ?) to avoid duplicates<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>WMS links for JOSM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>best aerial : <A
href="http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.map&layers=haiti-best&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&">http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.map&layers=haiti-best&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>topomap 1:50K (all of Haiti)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><A
href="http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/home/ortelius/haiti/haiti.map&layers=haiti-tlm-50&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&">http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/home/ortelius/haiti/haiti.map&layers=haiti-tlm-50&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Well you also might map using the potlatch editor, but you won’t
have 2 layers to switch to,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>and while potlatch is easier to start with ….. JOSM will do much
better and accurate mapping,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>and has some features (like Q : make a building or area
square-angled) and add-node-on-the fly<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>You should see me mapping rivers / areas with that, that you will
miss very much.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Oh, do not forget to connect roads to roads, other wise a router
may never find them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Loose roads are of no use .<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US> Well, see for yourself.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>Gert Gremmen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><BR>Regards<BR>Karl
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