<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Csacskaságok nyilván bőven vannak az adatbázisban. Van bármilyen jobb statisztikai módszer annak felmérésére, hogy az (1), ill. a (2) értelmű használat mennyire elterjedt ? Nekem ennyi 5letem volt, még ha nem is ad feltétlenül pontos eredményt. Azt akartuk megvizsgálni, hogy a (2)-es értelmű, az eredeti definíciót figyelmen kívül hagyó használat mennyire elterjedt.  Az eddigi jelek alapján eléggé ahhoz, hogy ezt már ne hibának, hanem kialakult gyakorlatnak tekintsük.</div><div><br></div><div>A Wiki szerinti defíníción ugyan lehetne faragni, de a probléma pont abból adódott, hogy azt a szerkesztők eddig is tömegesen figyelmen kívül hagyták. Így nyilván semmit sem old meg, ha az ottani szöveg módosul. Ráadásul a globális listákon  szinte biztosan nem menne át semmi olyan javaslat, amely az eredeti definíciót kidobná és valami teljesen mással helyettesítené.  Az már inkább belefér, hogy a Wiki jelezze, hogy az eredeti szűkebb értelem az idők során a gyakorlatban tágult.</div><div><br></div><div>Még az jutott eszembe, hogy ha lenne egy kiegészítő címke, amivel az alapozás létét/nem létét tudnánk jelezni, az kíhúzhatná a probléma méregfogát. Így az alábbi jelzések lennének lehetségesek:</div><div>- a nehézjárművek számára is alkalmas, több rétegű kőzúzalékkal alapozott makadámút: tracktype=grade1, surface=fine_gravel/compacted, <alapozás>=yes ,</div><div><div>- a tömörített murvával borított alapozatlan (föld)utak:at tracktype=grade1/grade2, surface=compacted, <alapozás>=no <br></div><div></div></div><div>- a laza murvával borított alapozatlan (föld)utak: tracktype=grade2, surface=fine_gravel, <alapozás>=no </div><div><br></div><div>Az eredeti definíció szempontjából ez kicsit troll-tagging (*), mivel az eredeti definíció implikálja az <alapozás>=yes-t, de hát valahogy fel kellene oldani a mostani helyzetet. Még nem néztem meg, hogy létezik-e erre már definiált kulcs. Ennek hiányában az <alapozás> helyes elnevezésére útépítésben jártasabb szerkesztő társaktól várnám a javaslatot :-)</div><div><br></div><div>(*) Troll-taggingnek azt hívjuk, ha valaki egy főcímke (top level tag) mellé olyan kiegészítő jelölést (second level tag) rak, amely azt nem kiegészíti, hanem az értelmét lényegesen módosítja/felülírja, az ilyen jelölés nyilvánvalóan nem kívánatos.</div><div><br></div><div>Üdv,</div><div>Gergő</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 6:41 PM Szem <<a href="mailto:szembiketeam@gmail.com">szembiketeam@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Valóban érdekes a statisztika, bár magát a kiinduló elvet nem
    teljesen értem. Miért lenne grade1 az első változat és grade2 /
    grade3 a második, amikor tudnék érveket felhozni ennek ellenkezőjére
    is. Különösen annak fényében, hogy a csacskaságok
    (grade1+sand/ground, grade4+gravel, stb.) is szép számban vannak
    jelen, szóval lehet, hogy nem is ezen szempont szerint adták az
    értéket. Az általam kigyűjtött 10 helyszín, számban nyilván sokkal
    kisebb, de tekintve, hogy véletlenszerűen választottam ki és nincs
    benne egyetlen sem a (1)-esből is nyom valamit a latban...<br>
    Az is egy megoldás, hogy felteszem az anyagot így, hiszen ez csak
    egy Wiki oldal, nem az osm adatbázisát írjuk át :), ezen bármikor
    lehet változtatni, vagy fog itt születni valami megállapodás?<br>
    üdv, Szem<br>
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    <div>2021.11.08. 21:54 keltezéssel, Gergely
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                        <div dir="ltr">Visszatérve a fine_gravel
                          meghatározására, rákerestem ezzel kapcsolatos
                          korábbi hozzászólásokra nemzetközi fórumokon.
                          Úgy tűnik, sikerült egy régi problémába
                          beletenyerelni. Szemhez hasonlóan én is arra
                          jutottam, hogy globálisan nem egységes a
                          használata.
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                          <div>(1) Az eredeti szándék a Wikin is
                            szereplő definíció: többrétegben alapozott
                            makadámutak jelölése volt. Már 10+ éve sem
                            értettek egyet abban a szerkesztők, hogy ez
                            implikál-e tömör felületet, vagy lehet
                            lazább murvás borítás is. Fontos
                            karakterisztika, hogy ez az egyetlen
                            burkolatlan úttípus, amely elbírja a
                            nehézjárművek közlekedését is (tönkremenetel
                            nélkül).  Azon szerkesztők, akik
                            makadámútként értelmezik a fine_gravel-t,
                            ezt az úttípust tartják a legjobb minőségű
                            burkolatlan úttípusnak. </div>
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                          <div>(2) A névválasztás ("fine_gravel') sajnos
                            rendkívül szerencsétlen volt. Idővel
                            láthatóan a szerkesztők számottevő része nem
                            a definíció, hanem a köznapi jelentés
                            alapján kezdte használni a "fine_gravel"-t,
                            betöltve a "compacted" és "gravel"
                            kategóriák közötti űrt (compacteddel szemben
                            laza felületű, de a gravel-nél kisebb
                            kavicsokkal borított)</div>
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                          <div>Lekértem pár statisztikát, hogy néhány
                            európai országban hogyan alakul a
                            fine_gravel használata. Abból indultam ki,
                            hogy aki (1) értelemben használta, az
                            grade1-es tracktype-ot állított be mellé,
                            aki (2)-es értelemben, az inkább grade2-est
                            vagy grade3-ast. Íme az összesítés
                            országonként a százalékos megoszlásról: (*)</div>
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                              <thead style="box-sizing:border-box;border-bottom:1px solid black;vertical-align:bottom"><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
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                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grade1</th>
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grade2</th>
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grade3</th>
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grade4</th>
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grade5</th>
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">unknown</th>
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                              </thead><tbody style="box-sizing:border-box">
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">hu</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">30</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">33</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">12</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">2</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">0</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">22</td>
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                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">sk</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">15</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">59</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">16</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">2</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">5</td>
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                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">at</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">5</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">71</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">16</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">3</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">3</td>
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                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">pl</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">28</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">44</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">11</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">3</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">12</td>
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                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">de</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">3</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">71</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">20</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">2</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">0</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">3</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">fr</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">11</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">50</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">16</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">3</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">20</td>
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                          <div>(*) A hibás tracktype-ok itt nem mutatott
                            oszlopaival együtt jön ki a soronkénti
                            összeg 100-ra. Unknown=tracktype nincs
                            megadva.</div>
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                          <div>Jól láthatóan az összes vizsgált
                            országban vegyesen alkalmazzák grade1,
                            grade2 és grade3 utakra is.  Az eloszlás a
                            legtöbb helyen haranggörbe jellegű, ami
                            grade2-nél csúcsosodik.  </div>
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                          <div>Összegezve, a gyakorlatban párhuzamosan
                            létezik az (1) makadámút értelmű használat,
                            és a (2) laza murvaborítás jellegű
                            használat. Az (1)-es értelemben jobb, a
                            (2)-es értelemben gyengébb minőségű a
                            compacted-nél.<br>
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                          <div>Hogyan tovább ?</div>
                          <div>Az elterjedtség okán el kell fogadnunk,
                            hogy mindkét értelmű használat bevett.
                            Tudtommal egyik értelmezésnek sincs igazán
                            jó helyettesítő jelölése:</div>
                          <div>- az (1)-es makadámút értelemmel a
                            compacted részben átfedő, de nem azonos
                            értelmű: utóbbiak nem feltétlenül alkalmasak
                            nehézjárművek közlekedésére az alapozás
                            hiánya miatt</div>
                          <div>- a (2)-es murvaborításos értelemmel a
                            gravel részben átfedő, de nem azonos
                            értelmű: a gravelt jellemzően inkább a
                            durvább zúzottkő borításra alkalmazzuk (bár
                            használata apróbb kavicsokra is megengedett)</div>
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                          <div>Végezetül érdekességként egy
                            magyaroroszági statisztika, jelenleg milyen
                            tracktype-surface kombinációkkal
                            találkozhatunk (**). Mit mondjak, ebben is
                            vannak érdekességek.</div>
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                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grade1</th>
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grade2</th>
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grade3</th>
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grade4</th>
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                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">compacted</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">562</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">2680</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">556</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">70</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">16</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">gravel</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">726</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">2238</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1634</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">220</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">30</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">unpaved</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">68</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">432</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1854</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1,312</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1,976</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">ground</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">130</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1054</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">9702</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">15,362</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">6,710</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">fine_gravel</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">298</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">330</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">118</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">24</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">2</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">dirt</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">52</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">876</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">750</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">1,008</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">550</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">paved</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">98</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">48</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">20</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">14</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">16</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">sand</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">20</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">368</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">640</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">900</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">722</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">earth</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">6</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">76</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">662</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">298</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">148</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">asphalt</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">884</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">68</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">28</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">4</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">8</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">concrete</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">302</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">98</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">40</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">12</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">4</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">grass</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">18</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">380</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">880</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">2,582</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">3,774</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">pebblestone</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">98</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">254</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">152</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">32</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">6</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">rocky</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">0</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">4</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">40</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">72</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">48</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">mud</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">0</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">10</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">2</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">46</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">34</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">cobblestone</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">18</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">26</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">22</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">2</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">6</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;padding:0.5em;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none;background:rgb(245,245,245)">
                                  <th style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;text-align:right;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">concrete:plates</th>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">44</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">14</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">6</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">0</td>
                                  <td style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0.5em;vertical-align:middle;line-height:normal;max-width:none;border:none">0</td>
                                </tr>
                              </tbody>
                            </table>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>(**) Olyan highway=track típusú utak
                            darabszáma, amelyeknél a tracktype és a
                            surface is beállított. A táblázatban csak a
                            legalább 20 különböző úton szereplő kulcsok
                            szerepelnek.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Üdv,</div>
                          <div>Gergő</div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
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