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<p>Would it be acceptable to add ref=A to entrance=main in such
case?</p>
<p>Probably, but <b>only </b>in that case. if it's something like
15/c then we have to keep that address.</p>
<p>What I mentioned was in special cases.</p>
<p>However I want the opinion of vasony or vmiklos because they know
the addressing structures well (vasony usually repairs wrong
addresses, vmiklos has a project for missing addresses
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://osm-gimmisn.vmiklos.hu/osm">https://osm-gimmisn.vmiklos.hu/osm</a>) that we need to look for)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022. 06. 30. 13:35, Mateusz
Konieczny wrote:<br>
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<div>To confirm things:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Lets say there is:<br>
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<div dir="auto">> ???? Street 4-6. Building A, Staircase A<br>
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<div dir="auto">with entrance=main that is without
addr:housenumber<br>
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<div dir="auto">Would it be acceptable to add ref=A to
entrance=main in such case?<br>
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<div dir="auto">Or would it be considered as invalid/unwanted?<br>
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<div dir="auto">> <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1419165875"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1419165875</a><br>
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<div dir="auto">So in Hungary staircase code is considered as part
of a housenumber?<br>
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<div dir="auto">In all cases? Only same?<br>
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<div dir="auto">(for example in Poland it would not be)<br>
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<div>29 cze 2022, 19:24 od <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:attila@attilakundev.com">attila@attilakundev.com</a>:<br>
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<p>Hi Mateusz & others,<br>
</p>
<p>As far as I know, yes, there are actually seperate "staircase
letters".<br>
</p>
<p>I'm going to cite this article from <a
href="https://masodikkerulet.hu/archiv/cimkezelesi-eljarassal-kapcsolatos-kozzetetel-2"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://masodikkerulet.hu/archiv/cimkezelesi-eljarassal-kapcsolatos-kozzetetel-2</a>
: <br>
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<p>"The correct addressing would be this:<br>
</p>
<p><b>1024 Budapest, Káplár utca 4-6. A épület, A, B, C, D
lépcsőház, B épület A, B, C lépcsőház</b><br>
</p>
<p align="left"><b>1024 Budapest, Fillér utca 8-12. A, B, C, D
lépcsőház"</b><br>
</p>
<div>Based upon this, yes this thing exists.<br>
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<div> Based on that: 1024 Budapest, Káplár utca 4-6. A épület, A
lépcsőház.<br>
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<div> = 1024 Budapest, Káplár Street 4-6. Building A, Staircase
A<br>
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<div>But there are other examples as well. Like at Örs vezér
tere (Fehér út), there is a big office building, which has two
staircases: Staircase A and staircase B.<br>
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<div> <br>
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<div> You would see such things like "<span>Fehér út 1. B.
lph.", lph is the abbreviation of lépcsőház (staircase)</span><br>
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<p align="left"><span>Hopefully my explanation is useful.</span><br>
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<p align="left"><span>BR,<br>
Attila</span></p>
<div class="">On 2022. 06. 29. 12:02, Feri Veres wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Mateusz,<br>
</p>
<p>Earlier I've mapped many big buildings as explained in this
comment, but as I can see them on the map, they had the
"staircase letter" as<b> part of their house number</b>. So
no special addr:unit or other tag was needed. Or every
normal entrance had their own house number. Examples:<br>
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<p>New building: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1541562620"
rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1541562620</a><br>
</p>
<p>Old building: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1419165875"
rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1419165875</a>
(I make such address nodes part of the building line.)<br>
</p>
<div>(The comment refers to both old and new - so in this area
at Budapest these are not numbered as the comment explains.
However I can imagine such house. In that case I would mark
the building outline with the number (Address) and the
entrances just<b>entrance=* + ref=* </b>maybe.)<br>
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<div> <br>
</div>
<p>Another city, same style: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6703947891"
rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6703947891</a><br>
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<p>I have not seen such "range of flats" marked, as in
original question. I didn't answer because I don't know if
they exist anywhere in Hungary. <b>Then how could anybody
say such houses do not exist?</b> :-) But if they are
rare, I think this is not a good "question" in
StreetComplete. I do not remember seeing or mapping such
"rage of flats" ever.<br>
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<div>Best regards,<br>
</div>
<div> Feri<br>
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<div class="">2022. 06. 29. 9:16 keltezéssel, Mateusz
Konieczny írta:<br>
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<div>interesting, based on<br>
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<div dir="auto"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3064#issuecomment-1159088130"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3064#issuecomment-1159088130</a><br>
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<div dir="auto">I enabled this quest in Hungary<br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">They mentioned staircase designators, so I
enabled it.<br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">if this quest will turn out to be mistake
here, then I will disable it.<br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Is addr:unit tagged on entrance=staircase?
Or on address nodes?<br>
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<div dir="auto">Or on something else?<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>28 cze 2022, 12:29 od <a
href="mailto:gabor.babos@gmail.com"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" rel="noopener noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gabor.babos@gmail.com</a>:<br>
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"
class="">Hello Mateusz,<br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"
class="">sorry for the late answer. Though I do not
live in an area with big block houses, as far as I
know flat numbers are not written outside on buildings
in Hungary.<br>
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class=""><br>
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"
class="">Staircases are often numbered and visible
also from the street but for them <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr#Detailed_subkeys"
rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">addr:unit</a> tags are used.<br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"
class=""><br>
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"
class="">Maybe others with more experience will
correct me.<br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"
class=""><br>
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"
class="">Regards<br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"
class=""><br>
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"
class=""><i>Gábor Babos</i><br>
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<div class="" dir="ltr">Mateusz Konieczny <<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" rel="noopener
noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>>
ezt írta (időpont: 2022. jún. 16., Cs, 16:24):<br>
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<div>Hello and sorry for writing in English. I am
implementing something in StreetComplete<br>
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<div dir="auto">and I want to ask is it something
that should be enabled in Hungary.<br>
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<div>Is it typical that entrance in an apartment
with multiple entrance will have:<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>- signed range of flats, for example
addr:flats=81-94 on entrance to<br>
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<div dir="auto">staircase with flats 81 to 94<br>
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<div>and/or<br>
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<div>- ref=VI on entrance to staircase with code
VI<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Example from Poland: <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.0202346,19.9033715,3a,42.4y,202.36h,95.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxM7gDCmkjQPWpvJaXWIG9A!2e0!5s20140601T000000!7i13312!8i6656"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.0202346,19.9033715,3a,42.4y,202.36h,95.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxM7gDCmkjQPWpvJaXWIG9A!2e0!5s20140601T000000!7i13312!8i6656</a><br>
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<div><br>
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<div>I am asking as I am unsure whether this quest
should be enabled in your area or not.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div dir="auto">It would result in tagging ref or
addr:flats or ref and addr:flats or
ref:signed=no<br>
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<div dir="auto">on entrances of
building=apartments which have more than one
tagged<br>
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<div dir="auto">entrance=main or
entrance=staircase<br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div>For reference, work on this is tracked in <br>
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<div><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3064"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3064</a><br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Pull requests is at<br>
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<div dir="auto"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/pull/4066"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/pull/4066</a><br>
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<div><br>
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<div dir="auto">It will be enabled in Poland,
Bulgaria, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Estonia.<br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">It will be not enabled in Kosovo,
Serbia, Lithuania, Slovakia and Czech Republic<br>
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<div dir="auto">as such signs are not in use
there.<br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">If you have some feedback about
StreetComplete - the best place to report it is
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues</a>
but you can also ping me in this thread for next
few days.<br>
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<div>--<br>
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<div>Talk-hu levelezőlista<br>
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<div><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"
href="mailto:Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org"
rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
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<div><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu</a><br>
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<div>Leiratkozás a fenti címen vagy <<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"
href="mailto:talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org"
rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org</a>>
címre egy levél, témája "unsubscribe", tartalma
mindegy.<br>
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