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    Mert különben bekerültek a világörökségi helyszínek is.<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Szem</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">2024.03.12. 14:35 keltezéssel, Péter
      Báthory írta:<br>
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cite="mid:CAMGadZD=rXhYrW6ccW-LbOOm_QmbWnon=EvFzwqBqd1ijenJXQ@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">A heritage!=* miért kellett?<br>
        <div>Ha a fokozottan védetteket akarod lekérdezni, akkor ez így
          jónak tűnik.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Szem <<a
            href="mailto:szembiketeam@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">szembiketeam@gmail.com</a>>
          ezt írta (időpont: 2024. márc. 11., H, 19:41):<br>
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          <div> Üdv!<br>
            A térképi adatbázist nézve talán ez az elvi szűrőfeltétel
            lehet megfelelő:<br>
            boundary=protected_area & protect_class~'1[ab]?' &
            heritage!=*<br>
            Kézzel nehéz leellenőrizni, hogy minden bekerül ami kell és
            mindent kiszűr-e ami nem kell, de ahol néztem ott jó volt.<br>
            Aki tudja, lécci ellenőrizze le, hogy így van.<br>
            Szem<br>
            <br>
            <div>2024.03.11. 13:30 keltezéssel, ITineris OSM írta:<br>
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                <div>boundary=protected_area<br>
                  leisure=nature_reserve<br>
                  <strong>protect_class=1</strong></div>
                <div>protection_title=Fokozottan védett természeti
                  terület</div>
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                <div>
                  <div>Példa: Nagykovácsi felett a Nagy-Szénás FVT.</div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>A default renderen látszik vastag zöld kontúrral;
                    az OsmAnd sajnálatos módon nem, még gyalogos
                    nézetben sem.</div>
                  <div>Abban egyetértek, hogy jó lenne valami vizuálisan
                    hangsúlyosabb tiltás (mondjuk az említett katonai
                    területekhez hasonló zöld sávozás), de ezt az
                    alkalmazásoknál kellene elérnünk. Ha a ticketekre
                    többen reagálunk/szavazunk, talán nem is esélytelen.</div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>Üdv:<br>
                    Ákos</div>
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                      <div style="margin:0px 0px 10px"><b>Sent:</b> Monday,
                        March 11, 2024 at 12:55 PM<br>
                        <b>From:</b> "Máté Fehérvári" <a
                          href="mailto:mate.fehervari@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><mate.fehervari@gmail.com></a><br>
                        <b>To:</b> "OpenStreetMap Hungary" <a
                          href="mailto:talk-hu@openstreetmap.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><talk-hu@openstreetmap.org></a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-hu] fokozottan védett
                        területek útjai</div>
                      <div name="quoted-content">
                        <div>Nincs valami hasonló landuse paraméter,
                          mint a military? Azon is vezetnek utak,
                          viszont a renderelők is kezelik.</div>
                         
                        <div class="gmail_quote">
                          <div class="gmail_attr">Pénzes Erzsébet <<a
                              href="mailto:erzsebetpenzes19@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">erzsebetpenzes19@gmail.com</a>>
                            ezt írta (időpont: 2024. márc. 11., H,
                            12:42):</div>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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                              <p>Sziasztok, az erdőtérképnél is
                                részletesebb az OKIR (néhai
                                Természetvédelmi Információs Rendszer),
                                ami a létező összes védettségi szintet
                                tartalmazza.</p>
                              <p><a
href="https://web.okir.hu/map/?config=TIR&lang=hu" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://web.okir.hu/map/?config=TIR&lang=hu</a></p>
                              <p>A jelzetlen ösvények <i>csak a
                                  fokozottan védett területen</i> no
                                access (1996. évi LIII. Tv. 40. §. (1)).
                                A "sima" védett területeken (NP, TK, TT,
                                helyi védettségű TT) az erdészeti
                                feltáróutakon és egyéb ösvényeken is
                                lehet menni.</p>
                              <p>Pénzes E.</p>
                              <div>2024. 03. 11. 11:13 keltezéssel,
                                Gergely Matefi írta:</div>
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                                <div>
                                  <div>Szia,</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div>én az Erdőtérképről tudok, amin
                                    feltét rétegként beállítható a
                                    védettség is, utóbbi jelöli a
                                    terület védettségi szintjét (védett
                                    / fokozottan védett):</div>
                                  <div><a
href="https://erdoterkep.nebih.gov.hu" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://erdoterkep.nebih.gov.hu</a></div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div>A Duna-Ipoly Nemzeti Parktól több
                                    évvel ezelőtt megkaptuk a védett
                                    területek pontos határait, azokat
                                    importáltuk az OSM-re is. A többi
                                    nemzeti parki igazgatóság működési
                                    területén sajnos esetleges, mi van
                                    fenn, és mi nincs.</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div>Praktikus aspektus: jogilag
                                    fokozttan védett területen valóban
                                    csak a kijelölt útvonalakon szabad
                                    haladni, ez általában a
                                    turistajelzéssel jelölt utakat
                                    jelenti. Nem hivatalosan, a DINPI
                                    egyik tájékoztatójában is
                                    elhangzott, hogy az erdészeti
                                    földutakon történő gyalogos mozgás
                                    "megtűrt" kategória, mivel nem okoz
                                    természeti kárt. Emiatt páran azt a
                                    gyakorlatot követjük, hogy csak a
                                    jelzetlen ösvényekre helyezünk
                                    access=no (vagy hasonló)
                                    jelöléseket. Érdekes lenne hallani,
                                    mit hallottál a természet őröktől -
                                    tudsz róla írni egy összefoglalót ? </div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div>Üdv,</div>
                                  <div>Gergő</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                                    <div class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar
                                      11, 2024 at 10:12 AM Ferencsin
                                      Imre <<a
                                        href="mailto:csincsin@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">csincsin@gmail.com</a>>
                                      wrote:</div>
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                                      <div>Sziasztok,
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>nagyon örülök a
                                          felvetésnek, mert volt egy
                                          konferencia, ahol
                                          megismerhettem a természetőrök
                                          véleményét, gyakorlatát is, és
                                          azóta tervem, hogy az ebből
                                          adódó esetleges problémákat
                                          megelőzendő jelölni tudjuk.
                                          Találtatok már olyan forrást,
                                          ahol a természetvédelmi
                                          határok típusokként
                                          egyértelműen definiálva
                                          vannak? </div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>üdv,</div>
                                        <div>cs</div>
                                      </div>
                                       
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                                        <div class="gmail_attr">On Sat,
                                          Mar 9, 2024 at 4:51 PM
                                          ITineris OSM <<a
href="mailto:itineris.osm@gmx.com" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">itineris.osm@gmx.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px">
                                              <div>Szia!</div>
                                              <div> </div>
                                              <div>Szerintem lehet, hogy
                                                a "no" kicsit túlzás
                                                lenne, és a "private"
                                                jól lefedi azt, hogy a
                                                FVT-kre engedéllyel,
                                                vezetővel be lehet
                                                menni.</div>
                                              <div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access" target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access</a></div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div> </div>
                                                <div>Másrészt nem csak
                                                  foot=*, hanem
                                                  alapvetően a minden
                                                  közlekedési módra
                                                  vonatkozó access=*-ból
                                                  kellene kiindulni.</div>
                                                <div> </div>
                                                <div>Üdv:<br>
                                                  Ákos</div>
                                                <div> 
                                                  <div
style="margin:10px 5px 5px 10px;padding:10px 0px 10px 10px;border-left:2px solid rgb(195,217,229)">
                                                    <div
style="margin:0px 0px 10px"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 09, 2024 at
                                                      3:34 PM<br>
                                                      <b>From:</b> "dsds
                                                      fdsfd" <<a
href="mailto:makkomat1@freemail.hu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">makkomat1@freemail.hu</a>><br>
                                                      <b>To:</b> "<a
href="mailto:talk-hu@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">talk-hu@openstreetmap.org</a>"
                                                      <<a
href="mailto:talk-hu@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">talk-hu@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
                                                      <b>Subject:</b> [Talk-hu]
                                                      fokozottan védett
                                                      területek útjai</div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>Sziasztok!</div>
                                                      <div> </div>
                                                      <div>Fokozottan
                                                        védett
                                                        természeti
                                                        területen futó,
                                                        turistajelzéssel
                                                        nem jelölt
                                                        utakat hogyan
                                                        kell
                                                        szerkeszteni? Ha
                                                        jól tudom,
                                                        hivatalosan
                                                        ezekre gyalog is
                                                        tilos bemenni.
                                                        Tehát foot=no és
                                                        sac_scale
                                                        kimarad, mert
                                                        irreleváns?</div>
                                                      -- Talk-hu
                                                      levelez�lista <a
href="mailto:Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org</a>
                                                      <a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu</a>
                                                      Leiratkoz�s a
                                                      fenti c�men vagy
                                                      c�mre egy lev�l,
                                                      t�m�ja
                                                      "unsubscribe",
                                                      tartalma mindegy.</div>
                                                  </div>
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                                          </div>
                                          --<br>
                                          Talk-hu levelezőlista<br>
                                          <a
href="mailto:Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
                                          <a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu</a><br>
                                          Leiratkozás a fenti címen vagy
                                          <<a
href="mailto:talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org</a>>
                                          címre egy levél, témája
                                          "unsubscribe", tartalma
                                          mindegy.</blockquote>
                                      </div>
                                      --<br>
                                      Talk-hu levelezőlista<br>
                                      <a
href="mailto:Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
                                      <a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu</a><br>
                                      Leiratkozás a fenti címen vagy
                                      <<a
href="mailto:talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org</a>>
                                      címre egy levél, témája
                                      "unsubscribe", tartalma mindegy.</blockquote>
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                            --<br>
                            Talk-hu levelezőlista<br>
                            <a href="mailto:Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
                            <a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu" target="_blank"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu</a><br>
                            Leiratkozás a fenti címen vagy <<a
href="mailto:talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org</a>>
                            címre egy levél, témája "unsubscribe",
                            tartalma mindegy.</blockquote>
                        </div>
                        -- Talk-hu levelez�lista <a
                          href="mailto:Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org</a>
                        <a
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu</a>
                        Leiratkoz�s a fenti c�men vagy c�mre egy lev�l,
                        t�m�ja "unsubscribe", tartalma mindegy.</div>
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          -- <br>
          Talk-hu levelezőlista<br>
          <a href="mailto:Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Talk-hu@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
          <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hu</a><br>
          Leiratkozás a fenti címen vagy <<a
            href="mailto:talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">talk-hu-request@openstreetmap.org</a>>
          címre egy levél, témája "unsubscribe", tartalma mindegy.<br>
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