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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can we can baseline the tagging based on color
codes given on the NHAI map- <A
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards<BR>Shajeer</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=thePlaneMad@gmail.com
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:24</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=talk-in@openstreetmap.org
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P>Even 10,000 active mappers wont be enough to update the status of roads
frequently. how many mappers would you expect who travel by road on 60000kms of
national highways daily? While this can be done on heavily used nh's like the
golden quad etc but its an impractical approach to follow for all the roads. I
agree thats its really useful for motorists to know the condition of the road,
but it would require a huge and highly unsustainable effort.</P>
<P>This is the kind of info that i would like to see as an overlay to the map,
like how you have live traffic status in google maps. That said, i'm not telling
you not to continue your work with nh67, but it would be impossible to replicate
this approach on our huge network of highways whose length total more than
200,000kms (nh+sh).<BR></P>
<P>I'm planning to give a session on osm at <A
href="http://www.barcampchennai.org/index.php?title=Main_Page">barcamp chennai
this saturday</A>, so it would be great if we can agree on something by
then.</P>
<P>cheers</P>
<P>-arun</P><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <SPAN
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<DIV class=Ih2E3d>On Thursday 16 October 2008 11:51:58 am Shajeer Mohammed
wrote:<BR>> It is great to have a dedicated person like you who can map and
make<BR>> changes to roads as their condition changes. But for most people
including<BR>> me, I rarely go back and vist the same road once its
mapped.<BR><BR></DIV>not dedication - I travel these roads every day. So can
update the condition<BR>daily. Which is the case with all of us - we maintain
our areas. Currently<BR>there are about 10-12 active people in India, but soon
there will be<BR>thousands - in that case daily updates of road conditions is
possible. That<BR>is why we are better than google<BR>
<DIV class=Ih2E3d><BR>> So if we cant<BR>> come up with once standard
lets then come up with 2!. Even though there are<BR>> no standards on
construction quality, number of lanes etc..., there is a<BR>> standard on
the ownership of the roads. NHAI owns all National Highways and<BR>>
Bypasses. State government PWD owns all state highways and local roads
are<BR>> owned by local civic bodies.<BR>> So looks like the
disagreement is on tagging national highways and state<BR>> highways. I
guess we all agree on express ways?<BR><BR></DIV>We all agree on expressways -
no problem<BR><BR>1. Trunk - connecting major cities. So we have to agree on
major cities:<BR><BR>metros - Mum, Chen, Del and Kol (maybe also bengaluru and
hyderabad)<BR><BR>2. Primary - connecting 2 tier cities to each other and to
major cities<BR><BR>2 tier cities: coimbatore, pune, madurai, mangalore,
ahmedabad ...<BR><BR>3. Secondary - connecting district headquarters to state
capitals or other<BR>district headquarters<BR><BR>4. Everything else tertiary
or less<BR><BR>This is regardless of who owns the road<BR><BR>Within cities -
just map using common sense - basically, size of the road and<BR>amount of
usage.<BR>
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<DIV class=Wj3C7c><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>regards<BR>Kenneth
Gonsalves<BR>Associate<BR>NRC-FOSS<BR><A href="http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/"
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