<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>This will give you an idea</div><div><a href="http://www.kslublris.com/LRIS/Kerala/district.php">http://www.kslublris.com/LRIS/Kerala/district.php</a></div><div>Just select Trissur or Ernakulum</div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>naveenpf </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2016 at 09:20, Jaisen Nedumpala <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaisuvyas@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaisuvyas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">2016-03-23 9:05 GMT+05:30 Jaisen Nedumpala <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaisuvyas@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaisuvyas@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>2016-03-22 22:46 GMT+05:30 Arun Ganesh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arun.planemad@gmail.com" target="_blank">arun.planemad@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr">My feedback on the current state of the proposal:<div><br></div><div># Admin Boundaries</div><div><br></div><div>This looks good overall. The important aspect about admin boundaries is that they are fairly static and do not change unless through legislation. Is this understanding correct?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Yes. Through legislation or through government notification. Changes in Cadastral boundaries / Revenue village boundaries are usually done through government notification. <br> <br></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div><div>I would correct the admin_level values to closely match the same values used for countries around the world[1]. 2=national, 4=state, 6=district, 8=sub district, 10=revenue village (The odd numbers used for any groupings in between)</div><div><br></div><div># Political Boundaries</div><div><br></div><div>Boundaries defined by the election commission and redrawn after each census by the Delimitation Commission [2]. The list currently covers the parliament and assembly constituencies, but no boundaries for local bodies.</div></div></div></blockquote></span><div><br>These are the boundaries defined by the Election Commission of India and Delimitation Commission of India. Usually the boundaries of Legislative Assembly Constituencies are defined as the grouping of Local Self Government Institutions.<br></div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div><div>These boundaries do not coincide with administrative boundaries, except maybe at the state level (admin_level=4)</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Boundaries of Legislative Aassembly Constituencies are defined as the grouping of Local authorities like village panchayats, and municipalities, but in the areas of larger local authorities like Municipal Corporations, those are defined as a grouping of Corporation Wards.<br><br></div><div>See: <br><br><a href="http://www.ceo.kerala.gov.in/pdf/03-DELIMITATION/01-FO-KERALA.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ceo.kerala.gov.in/pdf/03-DELIMITATION/01-FO-KERALA.pdf</a><br><br></div><div>Legislative Assembly Constituency is defined as, that one will fit within the boundaries of a revenue district. A revenue district will include several such Legislative Assembly Constituencies. The Parliament Constituency is defined as a grouping of Legislative Assembly Constituencies and which may span through more than one revenue district.<br><br></div><div>See: <br><br><a href="http://www.ceo.kerala.gov.in/pdf/03-DELIMITATION/03-DELIMITED-LAC.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ceo.kerala.gov.in/pdf/03-DELIMITATION/03-DELIMITED-LAC.pdf</a><br><a href="http://www.ceo.kerala.gov.in/pdf/03-DELIMITATION/02-DELIMITED-HPC.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ceo.kerala.gov.in/pdf/03-DELIMITATION/02-DELIMITED-HPC.pdf</a> <br></div><span><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div><div># Self governance boundaries</div><div><br></div><div>These are technically political boundaries for self governance, according to the Panchayati Raj system[3] and Municapal bodies.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>The boundaries of Local Self Government Institutions are defined by STATE Election Commissions, and Delimitation commissions of each State.<br><br></div><div>See:<br><a href="http://sec.kerala.gov.in/" target="_blank">http://sec.kerala.gov.in/</a><br><a href="http://delimitation.lsgkerala.gov.in/" target="_blank">http://delimitation.lsgkerala.gov.in/</a><br> <br></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div><div>This is currently divided into rural and urban boundaries, but can probably be conflated together. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Can be bifurcated too.<br> <br></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>It might also make sense to use a political_division value that matches the admin boundaries:</div><div><br></div><div>Rural:</div><div>6=district/zilla panchayat, 8=block/subdistrict/mandal panchayat, 10=village/gram panchayat, 11=neighbourhood/ward gram sabha</div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div><br>Neighbourhood is a smaller entity than ward/gram sabha in Kerala. Approximately 20-50 numbers of neighbourhoods will be there in Ward / gram sabha. <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>Also, District Panchayats and Block Panchayats have their own Constituency Divisions. The Members of District panchayats, and Members of Block Panchayats are elected form those constituency divisions. Divisions of Block panchayats are defined as a grouping of Village Panchayat wards and, Divisions of District Panchayats are defined as a grouping of Block Panchayat wards.<br> <br></div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div><div></div><div>Urban:</div><div>6=city/town municipal body, 8=sub city/municipal zones, 10=suburb/municipal ward, 11=neighborhood/colony mohalla</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Also, The cantonment area are governed by cantonment boards, those areas doesn't come within the rural / urban local bodies.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><span><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div><div>Jaisen, would be great to hear your feedback on this.</div><div><br><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries</a></div></div></div><div>[2] <a href="http://eci.nic.in/delim/Acts/acts.asp" target="_blank">http://eci.nic.in/delim/Acts/acts.asp</a></div><div>[3] <a href="http://www.panchayat.gov.in/ebook/" target="_blank">http://www.panchayat.gov.in/ebook/</a></div><div>[4] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_governance_in_India" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_governance_in_India</a></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Arun Ganesh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arun.planemad@gmail.com" target="_blank">arun.planemad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr">Merging recent discussions from district[1] and constituency [2] boundaries.<div><br></div><div>The current tagging scheme for boundaries in India[3] has limitations since it was not effectively researched to properly separate revenue and local body boundaries.</div><div><br></div><div>This is the reason to draw up a more well researched proposal[4]</div><div><br></div><div>Jaisen, who has experience working with the panchayat office in Kerala has just made the proposal more comprehensive[5]. This is right now the most detailed description of various boundaries in India that one can find anywhere online.</div><div><br></div><div>This is a great time to get more eyes on this and work towards a final scheme.<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2016-March/002529.html" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2016-March/002529.html</a></div><div>[2] <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2016-March/002533.html" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2016-March/002533.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>[3] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries</a></div><div>[4] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India/Boundaries" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India/Boundaries</a></div><div>[5] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_India/Boundaries&diff=next&oldid=1280759" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_India/Boundaries&diff=next&oldid=1280759</a><span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>
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