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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I too, have raised this same subject on
the Australian list and I have seen it raised on the UK list with
regards to Scotland. <br>
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I think the population being used to determine the OSM place
classification works well as a first iteration. <br>
What is being determined here is not the official, legal
determination of a place but rather the 'importance' of a place to
the locals or a traveller. <br>
That 'importance' is a reflection of the services you expect to
find there - hospital/s, doctor/s, police, shop/a diversity of
shops etc.<br>
Those services are usually directly reflected by the population,
where it falls down is when a place is<br>
a) remote - thus it becomes more 'important' as it is the sole
source of services to a much larger area<br>
b) dense - thus the population gets reduced by the neighbouring
places 'taking' some of the population as their own. And some
services being in an adjacent place. <br>
<br>
Some on the Australian list say that they take the services as the
indication of the type of 'place' that it is. I think that the
vast majority of places fit well with the population based
classification system. <br>
However for remote areas I think that the population required can
be reduced in proportion to the density of the total population
(over a very large area). This would work for the remote areas of
Australia, the Sahara, far eastern Russia, etc<br>
For India ... I am not local so cannot judge. But I'd try to stick
with the population based judgement. This gets away from any
political effects that can be had. For example Perth, Scotland was
a city untill some acts against the crown ruler .. the crown acted
by removing the city title from Perth. <br>
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On 8/25/2016 5:06 PM, I Chengappa wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I continue to oppose the proposal at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Places"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/India:Places</a>
because it can lead to classifications that are significantly
different from com<span id="goog_774667960"></span><span
id="goog_774667961"></span>mon usage. Hence it will make the
map less useful to users. For instance the proposal that the
classification of 'village' should be used only for panchayats
will often promote a smaller settlement and hide larger
settlements. There will also be a disparity in usage across the
country. <br>
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There is an adequate classification at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place</a>
which accords largely with common usage. <br>
<br>
The government classification could however be attached to the
node (or the boundary if available) with a specific key that
reflects its administration status - e.g. GOIClassification=xxx.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 22 August 2016 at 16:36, Yogesh K S
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yogesh@itforchange.net" target="_blank">yogesh@itforchange.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Bringing
this back again since there was no clear acceptance on the<br>
classification of Indian places[1] from last discussion some
years<br>
back[2]. I can see that many small towns are tagged as
cities in some<br>
states[3]. And the List of Cities in India entry on enwiki
is by<br>
population which seems to be incomplete[4].<br>
<br>
If there is a lack of consensus on classification proposal
made on the<br>
OpenStreetMap wiki India page, we can discuss or else use
the same as<br>
accepted one.<br>
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[1]<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Places"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/India:Places</a><br>
[2]<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2012-May/thread.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.<wbr>openstreetmap.org/pipermail/<wbr>talk-in/2012-May/thread.html</a><br>
[3]<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/hYb" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/<wbr>hYb</a><br>
[4]<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:List_of_cities_in_India"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/<wbr>wiki/en:List_of_cities_in_<wbr>India</a><br>
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--<br>
yogi<br>
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