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<div><br></div><div>Is it necessary to cross all thresholds to qualify? If yes, then<br></div><div dir="auto">law is badly written and OSM is safe.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If crossing any threshold is a problem?<br></div><div dir="auto">Then congratulations, in mapping aspects your laws descends to level of China.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And this laws will be treated like<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_geographic_data_in_China" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_geographic_data_in_China</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In other words: ignored by OSMF, and mapers in general but mapping in OSM<br></div><div dir="auto">by people within reach of Indian state may be dangerous proceed on your risk.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I guess that I should add India to list of countries with evil laws <br></div><div dir="auto">that I have personally broken so I should never visit it.<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">Note that damaging OSM data so it will become less accurate than criteria<br></div><div dir="auto">mentioned there is a vandalism and must not be done, and should be <br></div><div dir="auto">reverted.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would also suggest voting for a different politicians, if anyone reading this<br></div><div dir="auto">voted for people who introduced this.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Aug 16, 2022, 15:30 by kandimalla.sreeram@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div>These are the new geospatial guidelines - <a href="https://www.surveyofindia.gov.in/documents/uploads/document-49301-New%20Guidelines%20on%20Geospatial%20Data.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.surveyofindia.gov.in/documents/uploads/document-49301-New%20Guidelines%20on%20Geospatial%20Data.pdf</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>These are the relevant sections - <br></div><div><br></div><div><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 10px;font-size:15px;color:rgb(88,88,88);line-height:1.6;text-align:justify;font-family:calibri">iv. (a) For the purposes of these guidelines, the threshold value for:<br></p><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 10px;font-size:15px;color:rgb(88,88,88);line-height:1.6;text-align:justify;font-family:calibri">1. On-site spatial accuracy shall be one meter for horizontal or Planimetry and three meters for vertical or Elevation.<br></p><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 10px;font-size:15px;color:rgb(88,88,88);line-height:1.6;text-align:justify;font-family:calibri">2. Gravity anomaly shall be 1 milli-gal.<br></p><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 10px;font-size:15px;color:rgb(88,88,88);line-height:1.6;text-align:justify;font-family:calibri">3. Vertical accuracy of Bathymetric data in Territorial Waters shall be 10 meters for up to 500 meters from the shore-line and 100 meters beyond that.<br></p><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 10px;font-size:15px;color:rgb(88,88,88);line-height:1.6;text-align:justify;font-family:calibri"><br></p></div><div>vii. Maps/Geospatial Data of spatial accuracy/value finer than the threshold
value can only be created and/or owned by Indian Entities and must be
stored and processed in India.<br></div><div><br></div><div>viii. Foreign companies and foreign owned or controlled Indian companies can
license from Indian Entities digital Maps/Geospatial Data of spatial
accuracy/value finer than the threshold value only for the purpose of
serving their customers in India. Access to such Maps/Geospatial Data
shall only be made available through APIs that do not allow
Maps/Geospatial Data to pass through Licensee Company or its servers.
Re-use or resale of such map data by licensees shall be prohibited.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div class="" dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 6:45 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-in <<a href="mailto:talk-in@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">talk-in@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=""><div><div>Aug 16, 2022, 14:58 by <a target="_blank" href="mailto:kandimalla.sreeram@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">kandimalla.sreeram@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div> b) They were clear that they were immune under UK law? <br></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">India has no jurisdiction in Poland or UK.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Russia cannot sue me for violating their censorship laws (or at least they cannot<br></div><div dir="auto">enforce it, unless they would send FSB to assassinate or kidnap me).<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In the same way Indian government cannot enforce their censorship laws on<br></div><div dir="auto">me or OSMF.<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div>2. Is OSM aware of the New Indian Geospatial Guidelines?<br></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Probably no if you mean OSM community in general.<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div> a) If it does put OSM on the wrong side of Indian law, would OSM care to make adjustments to comply with Indian law and become legal in India, given that the adjustments needed are minor<br></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">What exactly changes would be needed?<br></div><div dir="auto">If it requires placing border not at its de facto location but at place demanded by<br></div><div dir="auto">India or Pakistan: not going to happen.<br></div><div dir="auto">If it is about mapping Indian/Pakistan claims: so people tried mapping disputed<br></div><div dir="auto">boundaries, this idea is disputed but not a clear no go.<br></div><div dir="auto">If it requires rendering Indian claim instead of de facto border on <a target="_blank" href="http://osm.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">osm.org</a> by default<br></div><div dir="auto">for everyone: this is not going to happen.<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">( This is where the Indian OSM veterans I have spoken to were saying that OSM won't<br></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">They are likely right, see<br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf</a><br></div><div dir="auto">for OSMF position.<br></div></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div> b) If we are on the wrong side of Indian law and OSM says they don't care.. Wouldn't it be the ethically right thing to do to put it up in <b>bold </b>on the OSM India wiki page that you are about to break Indian law by entering data here.<br></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Are you sure that applies to editors not mapping national border of India?<br></div><div dir="auto">And yes, it makes sense to give such warning if Indian government is enacting<br></div><div dir="auto">this type of laws. Just it should be accurate.<br></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div> Talk-in mailing list<br></div><div> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">Talk-in@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in</a><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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