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    Ciao Alberto,<br>
    che sorpresa! Non sapevo ci fossi anche tu.<br>
    <br>
    Ho controllato la calibrazione della mia mappa di Ozi, che è questa:
    Datum WGS 84; Proiezione mappa (UTM) Universal Transverse Mercator.<br>
    L'ho ricalibrata mettendo Roma 40 al posto di WGS 84 ma continuo a
    non vedere le tracce. Quindi sono nuovamente nelle vostre mani.<br>
    <br>
    Se volete, Michele e Alberto, per accorciarvi il lavoro posso
    mettere in un elenco exel, quello già iniziato da Alberto, la nota
    su quali GPX manchino e su quali invece ci siano già, prelevabili da
    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sardegnasentieri.it">www.sardegnasentieri.it</a><br>
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    Ciao e grazie.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    -- <br>
    Amos Cardia<br>
    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.amoscardia.com/bike"
      target="_blank">www.amoscardia.com/bike</a><br>
    tel. 349.342.00.05<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 14/03/2014 18.57, Alberto Marini ha
      scritto:<br>
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      Caro Amos e caro Michele, 
      <div>come va? E' da un po' che non ci si vede!<br>
        <div>Scusate se mi intrometto. Scommetto che la proiezione fuori
          Sardegna era esattamente di 1000 chilometri ....  Infatti il
          file che ho passato è un 3003. Conviene modificare la
          proiezione in UTM WGS, poi separare le varie tracce in tanti
          shapefile da convertire quindi in un formato compatibile OSM.</div>
        <div>Peccato davvero che non fossero già disponibili, ma
          scommetto che da qualche parte ci sono!</div>
        <div>Ciao,</div>
        <div>Alberto</div>
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          <div>
            <div>Il giorno 14/mar/2014, alle ore 17:18, "<a
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              ha scritto:</div>
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              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Ciao Michele,<br>
                per programma non GIS intendo un semplice lettore ed
                editor di tracce (atto anche al caricamento delle tracce
                stesse sul GPS) come Ozi, Map Edit, OkMap, MapSource,
                Google Earth, BaseCamp, Compe, etc.<br>
                <br>
                Stanotte controllo la proiezione e ti faccio sapere.<br>
                <br>
                Ciao e grazie.<br>
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                Amos<br>
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 14/03/2014 16.56,
                  Michele Beneventi ha scritto:<br>
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                        <div>Ciao Amos,<br>
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                        non capisco cosa intendi con "un programma non
                        GIS", forse un editor di testo?<br>
                        Si ho provato e mi apre un file di testo come
                        deve essere.<br>
                        <br>
                        Comunque probabilmente la difficoltà sta nel
                        fatto che l'EPSG del file è 3003 (Monte Mario /
                        Italy zone 1) per intenderci ROMA40 Gauss
                        Boaga/Ovest.<br>
                        <br>
                        Se hai hai bisogno del file GPX prioiettato in
                        un altro CRS fammi sapere.<br>
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                    Michele<br>
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                    <div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-14 16:23 GMT+01:00
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:amoscardia@tiscali.it">amoscardia@tiscali.it</a>
                      <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:amoscardia@tiscali.it"
                          target="_blank">amoscardia@tiscali.it</a>></span>:<br>
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                        <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Grazie
                          Michele, ma non funziona (neanche quello che
                          hai caricato sul tuo blog).<br>
                          <br>
                          Ozi mi dice che le tracce stanno fuori dalla
                          carta, Map Edit non le vede, OkMap dice che
                          c'è un errore, così come MapSource. Google
                          Earth mostra la terra avvolta da mille fili
                          come un gomitolo.<br>
                          Ma tu hai provato ad aprire il file GPX che
                          hai creato con un programma non GIS?<br>
                          <br>
                          Grazie anche a Stefano, ma dropbox ora non sta
                          funzionando, non chiedetemi perché, quindi non
                          posso verificare se col suo file riesco a
                          vedere qualcosa.<br>
                          <br>
                          Ciao
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                            -- <br>
                            Amos Cardia<br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.amoscardia.com/bike"
                              target="_blank">www.amoscardia.com/bike</a><br>
                            tel. 349.342.00.05<br>
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                          <div>Il 14/03/2014 9.05, Michele Beneventi ha
                            scritto:<br>
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                                    <div>Ecco i file "sentieri" formato
                                      GPX. Ho usato l'opzioni "tracks"
                                      che rende tutto a singole singole
                                      linee.<span
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                                      Ciao<br>
                                      Michele<span
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                                        style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Michele

                                        Beneventi</span><br
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                                      <span
                                        style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">GIS

                                        Technologist</span><br>
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                                        style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">LAT:
                                        39° 18' 25"; LONG: 08 °33' 20"</span><br
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                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                        target="_blank">http://www.michelebeneventi.it/</a><br>
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                      <span><Allegato di posta
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-14
                                    8:40 GMT+01:00 <a
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                                      target="_blank">amoscardia@tiscali.it</a>
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                                        target="_blank">amoscardia@tiscali.it</a>></span>:<br>
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                                        bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Ciao,<br>
                                        mi hanno spedito direttamente il
                                        file, ma credo che sia proprio
                                        quello del link <a
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href="http://www.sardegnageoportale.it/webgis/catalogodati/metadatiDC?idMetadato=12320&idEnte=1"
                                          target="_blank">http://www.sardegnageoportale.it/webgis/catalogodati/metadatiDC?idMetadato=12320&idEnte=1</a><br>
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                                        Qgis l'ho scaricato e
                                        installato, ma non sono riuscito
                                        a usarlo e ad arrivare ai GPX,
                                        quindi l'ho già disinstallato.
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                                          <br>
                                          > Si potrebbero verificare
                                          se sono già presenti i tratti
                                          su OSM e poi fare le relazioni
                                          con i riferimenti...<br>
                                          <br>
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                                        Ho verificato, non sono
                                        presenti.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Quindi? Devo farmi un corso di
                                        GIS e di Qgis solo per avere
                                        queste 76 tracce GPX?<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Ciao e grazie.
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                                          <br>
                                          <pre cols="72">-- 
Amos Cardia
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.amoscardia.com/bike" target="_blank">www.amoscardia.com/bike</a>
tel. 349.342.00.05</pre>
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                                        <div>Il 13/03/2014 23.12,
                                          sabas88 ha scritto:<br>
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                                                    class="gmail_quote">Il
                                                    giorno 13 marzo 2014
                                                    21:21, <a
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href="mailto:amoscardia@tiscali.it" target="_blank">amoscardia@tiscali.it</a>
                                                    <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:amoscardia@tiscali.it"
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                                                    ha scritto:<br>
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                                                        Ciao,<br>
                                                        mi sono
                                                        procurato il
                                                        file shape
                                                        (altro non c'è)
                                                        dei 76 sentieri
                                                        dell'Ente
                                                        Foreste<br>
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href="http://www.sardegnaambiente.it/foreste/foreste_parchi/sentieri.html"
target="_blank">http://www.sardegnaambiente.it/fores.../sentieri.html</a><br>
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                                                    <div>Dici questo
                                                      qua?</div>
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href="http://www.sardegnageoportale.it/webgis/catalogodati/metadatiDC?idMetadato=12320&idEnte=1"
                                                        target="_blank">http://www.sardegnageoportale.it/webgis/catalogodati/metadatiDC?idMetadato=12320&idEnte=1</a></div>
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                                                        Ora stanno
                                                        pubblicando
                                                        qualcosa anche
                                                        nel sito
                                                        SardegnaSentieri
                                                        (<a
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href="http://www.sardegnasentieri.it/" target="_blank">http://www.sardegnasentieri.it</a>)
                                                        ma questo
                                                        contiene
                                                        soltanto 30
                                                        tracce GPX
                                                        rispetto al
                                                        totale dei 76
                                                        sentieri,
                                                        peraltro
                                                        pubblicate alla
                                                        rinfusa nella
                                                        sezione "Rete
                                                        dei sentieri" e
                                                        non nelle più
                                                        razionali
                                                        sezioni
                                                        territoriali
                                                        (eccetto quelle
                                                        di Baratz-Porto
                                                        Conte, Baronie e
                                                        Mont'Albo,
                                                        Gùturu Mannu,
                                                        Iglesiente e
                                                        Tacchi
                                                        d'Ogliastra).<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Quindi torniamo
                                                        allo shape file,
                                                        non sono
                                                        riuscito a
                                                        passare dallo
                                                        shape ai gpx (o
                                                        a qualunque file
                                                        di traccia poi
                                                        convertibile).
                                                        Con Ozi sembra
                                                        funzionare tutto
                                                        perfettamente,
                                                        invece proietta
                                                        le tracce fuori
                                                        dalla Sardegna,
                                                        malgrado la
                                                        configurazione
                                                        dovrebbe essere
                                                        esatta: datum
                                                        WGS 84, formato
                                                        posizione UTM e
                                                        zona reticolo
                                                        (detta anche
                                                        FUSO) 32.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Da quanto ho
                                                        capito, le
                                                        funzioni GIS di
                                                        Ozi e anche di
                                                        Compe sono
                                                        piuttosto
                                                        limitate e non
                                                        consentono
                                                        quest'operazione
                                                        che serve a me
                                                        (dallo shape ai
                                                        gpx), almeno non
                                                        in modo
                                                        corretto. Quindi
                                                        servirebbe un
                                                        programma GIS
                                                        vero e proprio
                                                        che però io non
                                                        ho e comunque,
                                                        pure
                                                        scaricandone uno
                                                        gratis, non
                                                        saprei usare.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Quindi chiedo a
                                                        chi di voi sa
                                                        usare un
                                                        programma GIS:<br>
                                                        1. ricavare
                                                        dallo shape i
                                                        gpx è per voi
                                                        un'operazione
                                                        semplice e
                                                        veloce che
                                                        potete fare
                                                        gratuitamente
                                                        per la causa
                                                        oltre che per
                                                        me?<br>
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                                                    <div>Ti servono solo
                                                      i file gpx? Qgis
                                                      li esporta
                                                      tranquillamente,
                                                      anche Josm..</div>
                                                    <div>Si potrebbero
                                                      verificare se sono
                                                      già presenti i
                                                      tratti su OSM e
                                                      poi fare le
                                                      relazioni con i
                                                      riferimenti...</div>
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                                                        2. se così non
                                                        fosse, quanto
                                                        potrebbe costare
                                                        questo lavoro?<br>
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                                                    <div>Millemilioni!</div>
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                                                        3. allego il
                                                        file shape (500
                                                        KB) a questa
                                                        mail?<br>
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                                                    <div>No, se è
                                                      possibile linka la
                                                      pagina da cui
                                                      scaricare il
                                                      file.. :) </div>
                                                    <div><br>
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                                                    <div>Ad occhio in
                                                      quel file che ho
                                                      linkato io il
                                                      sentiero sardegna
                                                      non c'è, se trovi
                                                      altri dataset (gpx
                                                      od altro) linka
                                                      senza colpo
                                                      ferire..</div>
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                                                        Ciao e grazie<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                    <div>Ciao,</div>
                                                    <div>Stefano </div>
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tel. 349.342.00.05</pre>
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                              <pre cols="72">-- 
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.amoscardia.com/bike" target="_blank">www.amoscardia.com/bike</a>
tel. 349.342.00.05</pre>
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tel. 349.342.00.05</pre>
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Amos Cardia
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.amoscardia.com/bike">www.amoscardia.com/bike</a>
tel. 349.342.00.05</pre>
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