<p>Ciao skyone</p>
<p>Se hai voglia gli puoi inoltrare questo thread che avevo aperto il 1/6 sulla lista internazionale degli import (per altro non ricevendo alcun successivo commento/cazziata):</p>
<p> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2012-June/001413.html">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2012-June/001413.html</a></p>
<p>di più francamente non saprei cosa rispondere.. <br></p>
<p>Gianmario Mengozzi</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 28/giu/2012 10:14, "Sky One" <<a href="mailto:skyone@skyone.it">skyone@skyone.it</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Scusate se reintervengo sulla cosa, ma mi ha ricontattato pnorman per<br>
continuare a fare le pulci (erroneamente e gli ho risposto per le<br>
rime) sull'import. C'è una cosa che però devo girare alla lista:<br>
<br>
If the Italian documentation is leading people to ignore the<br>
guidelines then the documentation should be looked at.<br>
<br>
Allora, o le indicazioni per l'import[1] sono sbagliate (ed ha ragione<br>
a dire che vadano corrette - prego chi "capisce di import"<br>
(quasi-cit.) di fare le opportune correzioni), oppure è tutto<br>
corretto, anche se fatto non seguendo pedissequamente le linee guida,<br>
e allora metto un filtro (mentale) ai messaggi di questo tizio. Questo<br>
è uno dei momenti in cui rimpiango il fatto che OSM non abbia una<br>
gerarchia...<br>
<br>
Ciao<br>
<br>
[1]: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emilia_Romagna/Terremoto_Emilia_2012" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emilia_Romagna/Terremoto_Emilia_2012</a><br>
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Ciao SkyOne,<br>
<br>
pnorman ti ha inviato un messaggio tramite OpenStreetMap con l'oggetto<br>
Re: Imports:<br>
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Sorry for the delay - other matters have occupied my time.<br>
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On 2012-06-01 07:13:58 UTC SkyOne wrote:<br>
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On 2012-06-01 06:01:36 UTC pnorman wrote:<br>
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I noticed you importing in Italy in the changeset<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11762408" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11762408</a><br>
<br>
I looked for documentation for this import, but couldn't find any.<br>
Could you please point me at the wiki documentation and the discussion<br>
on the imports mailing list that happened before this import? As a<br>
remind, the import guidelines are at<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines</a><br>
<br>
You can find the page about importing/mapping data from Regione Emilia<br>
Romagna here: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emilia_Romagna/Terremoto_Emilia_2012" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emilia_Romagna/Terremoto_Emilia_2012</a><br>
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Could you see that the import information gets added to the import catalogue?<br>
<br>
There are the Talk-it's threads about what to do after the earthquake<br>
and how to import data:<br>
<a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2012-May/028781.html" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2012-May/028781.html</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2012-May/028801.html" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2012-May/028801.html</a><br>
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They also call for imports to be done from a dedicated account.<br>
Providing links in the profile of that account to the import<br>
documentation can be helpful<br>
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It also looks you deleted all the existing buildings, for example<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/78321342" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/78321342</a> and<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/152081061" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/152081061</a><br>
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The second one had tags on it.<br>
<br>
I made the import how it's described in the "Inserimento con JOSM"<br>
paragraph of the<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emilia_Romagna/Terremoto_Emilia_2012" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emilia_Romagna/Terremoto_Emilia_2012</a><br>
page. I do a resume for you: 1) open the OSM file derived from the<br>
Regione Emilia Romagna's DB 2) open the same area 3) check (manually!)<br>
what buildings are in the OSM DB now and are/aren't in the Regione<br>
Emilia Romagna's datas and delete the double ones: this is made 'cause<br>
the buildings in the Regione Emilia Romagna's DB are better than the<br>
previously 4) check with the "PCN 2006" WMS that the building are<br>
georeferenced correctly 5) upload data to OSM<br>
<br>
If the Italian documentation is leading people to ignore the<br>
guidelines then the documentation should be looked at.<br>
<br>
Why did you delete these? It looks like you deleted existing data to<br>
import data, which is not recommended.<br>
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As I said, the new datas are better than the older. As you can see<br>
it's not an "automatic" import, but there's always a human check ...<br>
<br>
My recollection was in the two cases I linked the imported data was<br>
worse. I'm downloading the data to check, but I know one of them had a<br>
tag.<br>
--<br>
Cià<br>
Cristiano / Sky One<br>
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