On further inspection, I think the old rendition of the islands suffer from incorrect position and size, and the small islets at the northwestern side is shown as a terrible artifact. With DWG's permission, I'd like to fix this and the incorrect data I mentioned below. I'll be depending mostly on the low-res Bing aerial in order to stay legal (national law or OSM license wise), but it should be better than what's there right now.<div>
<br></div><div>I'll place my nodes and ways without any tags at first, so it doesn't render on the map. I'll switch over when there's an okay sign.<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Wesley Woo-Duk Hwang-Chung <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wesley96@gmail.com" target="_blank">wesley96@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>I checked the reverted data now, and it's back when the Japanese users tampered with it. The following need to be fixed like this:</div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:'.HelveticaNeueUI';font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1204196634/history" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1204196634/history</a></span></div>
<div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap">This node should revert to version 1.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></font></div><div><span style="font-family:'.HelveticaNeueUI';font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1204196646/history" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1204196646/history</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI">This node should revert to version 3.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:'.HelveticaNeueUI';font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1275586993/history" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1275586993/history</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI">This node should be deleted.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI">These changes should put the data back to the point before Japanese users such as "takeshima" started tampering with the area.<br>
</font></span><br><span>나의 iPhone에서 보냄</span><div>Wesley (OSM: Namuori)</div></div><div><br><div class="im">2012. 10. 19. 14:27 Paul Norman <<a href="mailto:penorman@mac.com" target="_blank">penorman@mac.com</a>> 작성:<br>
<br></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It’s CC BY-SA and not ODbL compatible. There’s the additional problem that it appears to be derived on a map from a South Korean maritime survey institution and a map published by dkbnews, so even if the author gave permission it’s not all his work.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I think there’s a previous less accurate version of the coastline in the history but I’m having trouble finding it. If I can find it, I’ll restore that. It might take a couple of days before I can find it – retrieving history is somewhat of a pain. The area has gone through a *<b>lot</b>* of edits deleting and restoring objects.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I did restore the ferry route tagging.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Wesley Woo-Duk Hwang-Chung [<a href="mailto:wesley96@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:wesley96@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Talk-ko@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-ko@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-ko] DAUM as a source</span></p></div></div>
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</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">According to sanha, he doesn't read mailing lists, and he doesn't want to get into too much legal rambling.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The .osm file sanha made to replace the Daum-sourced map is based on this map:</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:".HelveticaNeueUI","serif""><a href="http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/File:Dokdo_zoomin.png" target="_blank">http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/File:Dokdo_zoomin.png</a></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:".HelveticaNeueUI","serif"">The legal information is there in English. Would this be made to be compatible with ODbL?</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:".HelveticaNeueUI","serif"">The "spirit" seems to be, at least to me. Sadly, according to sanha, the creator is hard to get in contact with.</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:".HelveticaNeueUI","serif"">How should we go about this?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<br><br><span style="font-family:"Batang","serif"">나의</span> iPhone<span style="font-family:"Batang","serif"">에서</span> <span style="font-family:"Batang","serif"">보냄</span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">- Wesley (OSM: Namuori)</p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>2012. 10. 19. 12:36 Changwoo Ryu <<a href="mailto:cwryu@debian.org" target="_blank">cwryu@debian.org</a>> <span style="font-family:"Batang","serif"">작성</span>:</p>
</div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I sent a message explaining those to that mapper.<br><br>Actually uploading DAUM data to OSM is more dangerous in Korea than<br>you think. All online map services in Korea (even Google map) are<br>
based on data mapped by the government. And those government data<br>can't be exported without approval by a law. (Well it's because...<br>north korea and national security.. at least the government think so.)<br>
One who violate that law can be put in jail for up to 2 years.<br><br>2012/10/19 Paul Norman <<a href="mailto:penorman@mac.com" target="_blank">penorman@mac.com</a>>:<br><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Apologies for the message in English, but if I knew Korean I wouldn't need</p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">to send it.</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">The DWG was informed that a Korean mapper</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">(<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sanha" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sanha</a>) had used DAUM as a source.</p>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I'm dealing with redacting the relevant changesets, but the mapper doesn't</p>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">speak English and I don't speak Korean so we're communicating through Google</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">translations.</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">
I was wondering if someone could contact him and explain</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">- Why DAUM or Google can't be used as sources</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">and</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">- How we're on ODbL now, not CC BY-SA</p>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Paul Norman</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">For the Data Working Group</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________</p>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Talk-ko mailing list</p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Talk-ko@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-ko@openstreetmap.org</a></p>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ko" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ko</a></p>
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<br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-ko mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-ko@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Talk-ko@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ko" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ko</a></p>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Wesley Hwang-Chung<br>Tool-Box.info<br>
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