<div dir="ltr">To Whom It May Concern,<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hi, everyone. This is an immediate response to Andrew Errington's request as noted below. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm a member of OSM but not an active mapper yet. Since I was motivated to volunteer to be some help to resolve this issue, I want to suggest couple of options based on what I've contacted with the responsible staff of Vworld service in Korea today. </div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>1. Vworld's scope of use</b></div><div>- Vworld is a geospatial content web service by SpaceN, which is a Korean government-sponsored foundation.</div><div>- After a legal review with lawyers, SpaceN confirmed a decision that traced digital data on top of Vworld map service should lie under the control of Vworld data license though it may be free of charge. </div><div><br></div><div>In this regard, Andrew's suspicion of source image is correct.</div><div><br></div><div><b>2. How to prevent the Korean mappers from using Vworld</b></div><div>- Last week, I had the same case as raised by Robert Helvie. I could contact the individual mapper confirming not to use Vworld any longer. Upon the circumstances, it would be very difficult to contact every individual and to advise the right mapping practice. </div><div>- So, I'd like to take several actions which I can locally do speaking in Korean.</div><div>1) Sending out a message not to use Vworld as a source for OSM mapping through OSGeo Korean Chapter member networks. </div><div>2) Sending out the same message through such social network services as Facebook, etc. </div><div>The message will clearly pointing the web page of <u><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright">http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright</a></u> and its <copyright infringement> paragraph. </div><div><br></div><div>The above options are short-term actions. But, I also would like to go with long-term commitment; building and training the local OSM community. In order to support quality OSM mapping, I'm preparing for a self-training material. Actually, I'm translating "Mapping with OpenStreetMap - Mapping guides by Mapbox" at <u><a href="https://www.mapbox.com/mapping">https://www.mapbox.com/mapping</a></u> . I'm going to upload it at some related homepages including OSGeo Korean Chapter's. </div><div><br></div><div>It was only last year that I turn my interest toward OPEN world as well as OSM. So, I have limited experience with OSM. Please consider this, and give me a better idea to resolve the subject issue that Andrew Errington concerns. </div><div><br></div><div>If anyone has anything else, please comment. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Kyu-sung Choi, EZMapping (M. +82-10-5414-4374)</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div></div></div></div></div>
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<br><br>---------- 전달된 메시지 ----------<br>From: Andrew Errington <<a href="mailto:erringtona@gmail.com">erringtona@gmail.com</a>><br>To: OpenStreetMap Korea <<a href="mailto:talk-ko@openstreetmap.org">talk-ko@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:09:58 +0900<br>Subject: Re: [Talk-ko] Questionable imagery<br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Here's another one from user 'Bucketz', using imagery Custom (<a href="http://xdworld.vworld.kr:8080/2d/Satellite/201612/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.jpeg" target="_blank">http://xdworld.vworld.kr:<wbr>8080/2d/Satellite/201612/{z}/{<wbr>x}/{y}.jpeg</a>)<br><br></div>Not only is he/she using a source they shouldn't, but they are also screwing up good mapping.<br><br></div>They have only done 20 edits, 6 days and 4 days ago. The first 5 used Bing and Mapbox, but then he/she introduced xdworld. I will send a message asking what's up, but I don't know if this mapper is Korean, or what language they use.<br><br></div>Best wishes,<br><br></div>Andrew<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 February 2017 at 22:18, Robert Helvie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alimamo@gmail.com" target="_blank">alimamo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Kyu-sung,</span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the report.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Robert</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:05 PM, 최규성 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kyusung.choi@gmail.com" target="_blank">kyusung.choi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Kyu-sung </blockquote></div><br><div><div class="gmail-m_-1032973025663125073m_-1669712061433600024gmail_signature"><br></div></div>
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<br><br>---------- 전달된 메시지 ----------<br>From: Andrew Errington <<a href="mailto:erringtona@gmail.com">erringtona@gmail.com</a>><br>To: OpenStreetMap Korea <<a href="mailto:talk-ko@openstreetmap.org">talk-ko@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:20:12 +0900<br>Subject: Re: [Talk-ko] Questionable imagery<br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I found another one:<br>User 나린한울: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%EB%82%98%EB%A6%B0%ED%95%9C%EC%9A%B8" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>user/%EB%82%98%EB%A6%B0%ED%95%<wbr>9C%EC%9A%B8</a><br>Example changeset: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45749791#map=14/36.0315/129.3504" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>changeset/45749791#map=14/36.<wbr>0315/129.3504</a><br><br></div>Has this started due to the introduction of Pokemon Go in Korea? It's great to have new mappers, but we can't afford to be using source data that is not permitted. This user probably speaks Korean. Could someone contact him/her?<br><br></div>Thanks,<br><br></div>Andrew<br><br></div>PS I am going through my OSM notes and trying to clear the ones that I can edit myself, and also clearing the ones where work has been done. This is why I am noticing these <a href="http://vworld.kr" target="_blank">vworld.kr</a> edits. I am also noticing people deleting name:ko tags, which I don't think is a good idea.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 February 2017 at 11:09, Andrew Errington <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:erringtona@gmail.com" target="_blank">erringtona@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Here's another one from user 'Bucketz', using imagery Custom (<a href="http://xdworld.vworld.kr:8080/2d/Satellite/201612/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.jpeg" target="_blank">http://xdworld.vworld.kr:8080<wbr>/2d/Satellite/201612/{z}/{x}/{<wbr>y}.jpeg</a>)<br><br></div>Not only is he/she using a source they shouldn't, but they are also screwing up good mapping.<br><br></div>They have only done 20 edits, 6 days and 4 days ago. The first 5 used Bing and Mapbox, but then he/she introduced xdworld. I will send a message asking what's up, but I don't know if this mapper is Korean, or what language they use.<br><br></div>Best wishes,<br><br></div>Andrew<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail-m_-4884304660645922198h5">On 10 February 2017 at 22:18, Robert Helvie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alimamo@gmail.com" target="_blank">alimamo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail-m_-4884304660645922198h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Kyu-sung,</span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the report.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Robert</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:05 PM, 최규성 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kyusung.choi@gmail.com" target="_blank">kyusung.choi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Kyu-sung </blockquote></div><br><div><div class="gmail-m_-4884304660645922198m_5244298976253991806m_-1669712061433600024gmail_signature"><br></div></div>
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