<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Automatic Edits code of conduct [1] says you need to have wiki page describing your proposed automatic changes. Other than that, I would like to see few changes so we can be assured the change by your bot won't break everything.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">[1]: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct</a><br><br><div>--</div><div>Yongmin</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone<div><a href="https://wp.revi.blog">https://wp.revi.blog</a><br><div>Please note that this address is list-only address and any non-mailing list mails will be treated as spam.</div><div>Please use <a href="https://encrypt.to/0x947f156f16250de39788c3c35b625da5beff197a" style="font-size: 13pt;">https://encrypt.to/0x947f156f16250de39788c3c35b625da5beff197a</a>.</div></div></div><div><br>2017. 3. 4. 16:35 느림보 <<a href="mailto:nrimbo@gmail.com">nrimbo@gmail.com</a>> 작성:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">I opened new thread to discuss automatic
modification of name tag.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">For of all, I want to describe
background.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Many POIs in Korean region have their
name tag in </span><i>한국어<span lang="EN-US">
(English)</span></i><span lang="EN-US"> form. That form had been required for
several years for some technical issue (I don’t the technical issue exactly.)
However, the rule was changed on Oct. 2014 by adopting Changwoo’s suggestion.</span></span></p>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN">It's time to change the policy of </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name" title="Key:name"><span style="font-size:14pt;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%" lang="EN">name</span></a></span><span style="font-size:14pt;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%" lang="EN">=*</span><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN"> back to the global rule; discard " (English)" and use Korean
local name only. Problems of bi-lingual "</span><span style="font-size:12pt">한글<span lang="EN"> (English)" format are: </span></span></span></p>
<ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN">It
is against the global rule.</span></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN">It
makes map internationalization process difficult, because its value cannot
be used as default local name.</span></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN">Its
bi-lingual format is often not appropriate for default labels.</span></span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Source: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Korea_Naming_Convention">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Korea_Naming_Convention</a></span></span>
</li></ul></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Rule was changed but there was no action
for modifying legacy names. It was the biggest harassment when I joined the
community: “There are two naming rules. </span><i>한국어<span lang="EN-US"> (English)</span></i><span lang="EN-US"> form is
using without any documented guideline. Which style should I follow? Can I
modify </span><i>한국어<span lang="EN-US">
(English)</span></i><span lang="EN-US"> form to </span><i>한국어</i><span lang="EN-US"> form?”</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Finally, I decided to write automated
script to rename legacy style with new one.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">There must be no losing of information
during automated modification. So, I defined condition of POIs like below:</span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt 38pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><span>1)<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;font-feature-settings:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-synthesis:weight style;font-variant:normal"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">A Korean POI has at least one Hangeul character (and is in Korean
region.)</span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt 38pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><span>2)<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;font-feature-settings:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-synthesis:weight style;font-variant:normal"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">If name tag of a Korean POI is equal to “name:ko (name:en)” then it
is legacy style.</span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt 38pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><span>3)<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;font-feature-settings:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-synthesis:weight style;font-variant:normal"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">If name tag of a Korean POI ends with “(name:en)” then it might be
legacy style.</span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt 38pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><span>4)<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;font-feature-settings:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-synthesis:weight style;font-variant:normal"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">If name tag of a Korean POI is made of “first-part (second part)”,
the first-part contains Hangeul, and the second part doesn’t contain Hangeul,
the it might be legacy style.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Before regional filtering the number of
items are</span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt 38pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><span>1)<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;font-feature-settings:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-synthesis:weight style;font-variant:normal"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">336,336</span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt 38pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><span>2)<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;font-feature-settings:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-synthesis:weight style;font-variant:normal"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">55,989</span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt 38pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><span>3)<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;font-feature-settings:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-synthesis:weight style;font-variant:normal"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">84,764</span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt 38pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><span>4)<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;font-feature-settings:normal;font-kerning:auto;font-synthesis:weight style;font-variant:normal"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">11,621</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Detailed review will be required for 4)
case, but 11,621 items are not big for that for me.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Please leave messages If you have any
concern or opinion for my suggestion. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;text-align:left;line-height:normal;word-break:keep-all" align="left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">느림보<span lang="EN-US"> (Nrimbo)</span></span></p>
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